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The first cemani chick is out! I'm so excited! I don't see any others externally pipped and this chick is a day late already. Hoping for the best with the others! I'll get pics when it and a couple tolbunts dry off and moved to a brooder! I'm so excited!
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cool brad - hope more of 'em hatch
hope your hen shows up indy
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Originally Posted by pginsber View Post
 

 

Thanks for your insight about goat breeds and milk.  We were thinking about pygmy because of their small size--didn't even think about different breeds having different milk characteristics. Guess we hadn't gotten that far in our thought process.

 

A screaming pig at 3am would wake a person up with a real start! We're still working on the potty training phase, and they get their second set of puppy boosters today.

 

We have absolutely no good reason to keep these two pups--except that we love them so much. We feel guilty just talking about keeping them, because they would so easily get a forever home. 

 

Usually, we adopt special needs animals. Currently, we have an ancient mean Chihuahua with heart failure, a blind and deaf Cocker Spaniel, and a cat with cardiomyopathy among our old and special needs pack. If we did adopt the puppies, there would be some special needs animals out there going without a home. That makes me sad to think about.

 

Can you tell I'm trying to talk myself out of adopting them?

 

I would have difficulty butchering a brown Swiss, too!  ...A tiny meat chicken at 16-20 weeks?  If you say so...

If your wanting a smaller goat look up Nigerien Dwarf ( don't know if I spelled that right ) I don't know anything about their milk, but they are small and they are supper sweet.

 I commend you for taking on the Special needs animals, I have a bunch here as well is why our farm is called Missfit Farm... lol   You do have a hard dissension to make. Pups do find forever homes faster, and allot of the Special Needs go unwanted thats for sure.

 

 

 I want a Swiss real bad, not to eat, I want the milk, never tried it but have heard that it is great. ?? but we don't have room where we are now, we are looking to get a bigger place some day.  

 

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Originally Posted by Campine View Post
 

I'm looking for a chicken friendly dog, my old Pyrenese finally left me last month.

I have 2 GP's and they are great with all my critters, Sorry to hear you lost yours. Hope you find one soon. 

 

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The first cemani chick is out! I'm so excited! I don't see any others externally pipped and this chick is a day late already. Hoping for the best with the others! I'll get pics when it and a couple tolbunts dry off and moved to a brooder! I'm so excited!

Congrats!!! :pop

Mom to: 3 horses, 3 boar nannys, 1 billy and 1 spotted Boar nanny, 1 Nubian Doe, 1 nubian billy, 1 ober doe, 1 LaMancha billy and 2 LaMancha does,   2 GP LGD, 1 American Standfordshire,  1 Ridgeback, 1 black Lab and 1 tri-colored Aussie and 1 Aussie/AS.  5 LF Brhama hens, 7 White rock hens, 3 Blk Auslops sex to be determined, 2 SF pullets, 3 BCM's sex to be determined, 1 BM pullet, 1 buff Cohin...
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Mom to: 3 horses, 3 boar nannys, 1 billy and 1 spotted Boar nanny, 1 Nubian Doe, 1 nubian billy, 1 ober doe, 1 LaMancha billy and 2 LaMancha does,   2 GP LGD, 1 American Standfordshire,  1 Ridgeback, 1 black Lab and 1 tri-colored Aussie and 1 Aussie/AS.  5 LF Brhama hens, 7 White rock hens, 3 Blk Auslops sex to be determined, 2 SF pullets, 3 BCM's sex to be determined, 1 BM pullet, 1 buff Cohin...
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post #33424 of 50258
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lol I'm sure you would have heard about it the rest of your life if you had eaten him..... :lau

 

Congrats.... I never stop being thrilled about getting a new egg... :D

 

I'm surprised no one has said this before me... You really DON'T want to get a pygmy if you want to drink the milk. I and everyone I know of, say the same thing about pygmy milk... it sucks!!! Sorry but it is bitter and the overall texture is just really bad. Got a friend that tried to make cheese out of it ( she makes cheese all the time and other stuff too ) and she said it wouldn't even set up right, she threw the whole batch away. You want to go with a LaMacha or a Alpine IMO, allot of people like Nubian milk as well as Toggenburg. I have never heard anyone say they liked pygmy milk. But hey, to each their own, just giving a little heads up is all.  And I mean no offence to the pygmy owners out there. They are awesome moms and pets.

 As far as house training a goat, I am told that they are easier then a dog??? never tried but know of 2 people that have house goats. I did have a potbellied pig in the house and it only took 1 time of letting him know it was a bad thing to poddy in the house and after that he would diffidently let ya know he had to go out and poddy... lol Waking up at 3 am with a SCREAMING pig will really get your attention!!!! 

 O and btw I love to hear about foster failures its great!! Wish their were more in the world :love  

 

I know that feeling... lol  aint it great........

 

I was told by my vet that dogs can get worms from my chickens so I guess a cat could too???? As far as your flock sitting around all puffed up, my do the same thing in bad weather ( rain especially ). 

 I have been lucky so far and not had any winter time molts, knock on wood, I hope my luck holds. 

 

hope school gets better for ya, just don't get too frustrated, my grand farther always told be to think about everyone in class sitting in their underware... lol 

 

I fought the wild birds all winter last year, I have a lg. run too, but I am putting Deer netting up this year, got half of the run done and all of my sm pens covered. I just buy a pack of the netting a week, I need about 3 more pks I think and I will be done. NOT feeding those dang birds this year, I refuse, my feed bill tripled last year and this year I have 2x the chickens, don't even want to think what my feed bill would be if I have to feed the wild birds as well!!!

 

Loved all the pic's, I want some BCM's next year, thinking about getting some hatching eggs and letting one of my broody's take care of the hard stuff. 

Watch I wont get a broody next spring... :he just the way my luck goes... I'm fighting 2 broody's right now, 1 just hatched out 3 a week ago, and next spring when I want them to go broody??????????? 

 

Sorry about your camping chicken, I know what ya mean about not being the same, My camping buddy was a dog. He was a very special boy and I miss him still to this day. ( been gone for 3 years ) 

 

Wow I'm glad I aint tiring to buy beef where you are. The highest it goes at Rockville that I know of is 2.50 and that is rare. My BIL goes and buys alott and he grips if he has to pay more then 1.95.  So I hear real quick if it gets any higher... lol I'll double check with him this weekend but it sounds like you guys need to make a trip to Rockville to get your beef.    

 

I've even got the sneezes, I think the fast drop in temps has affected animal and human alike. I tried freezing an egg just cause everyone has been talking about it and I have decided that freezing is just not for me. I didn't like it.  So far I have been lucky enough to have selling eggs for my reg. customers and to keep us in eggs as well. 

 

My girls are going to be mad at me today,  My egg production has dropped bad so I am going to keep them in the run to find out if I need to go on an egg hunt. 

 

Hope she comes back soon, probably sitting under a bush  someplace. 


How are  you keeping the netting high enough in the center of their yard?  Mine is 45' wide, I could attach to the trees, but there really are only 2 trees.  Fence is 4' high and most of their yard has nothing to attach the netting to.  I had no problems with wild birds last year getting into their food.  They eat everything normally within 20 minutes since I feed FF.  Same with their snacks.  The bigger birds, my roo chases them off.  Its just the little babies he's having a problem with, well he wont chase them off.  Which may have been where my birds got the worms, therefore I have a problem with them too.

 

Well my ba broody that hatched out chicks last year is broody again.  She's getting locked up.  I don't want anymore chicks this year!  And the rest are going into molt.  I got 5 eggs Sunday and 8 eggs yesterday.  Normally 14-16 a day.  I guess I'll throw all my eggs into the fridge and try to make them last longer.  Good thing I can worm them now, I won't feel so bad about tossing so few eggs.

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Originally Posted by hogster160 View Post

 

I just find that I am making ff every two day with these poults, so I'm worried its not really getting a chance to ferment.  I'm using a Sams Club icing bucket, 5 gal bucket.  It may be time to start fermenting 2 buckets for them. Although that's a good idea to keep dry out for them, I may just do that.  First time with poults here, so wasn't too sure.  The other turkeys were 4-5 months when I got them.  Thanks!

On the fermenting...

Even if it isn't getting fully fermented, just soaking overnight goes a LONG WAY in reducing anti-nutrients.  This is well-documented so you can rest assured that at least the soaking is helping some!

 

(I can send you some research references later is you're interested...at work right now with not a lot of time)

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post #33426 of 50258
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Originally Posted by Campine View Post
 

I'm looking for a chicken friendly dog, my old Pyrenese finally left me last month.

So sorry for your loss :(

 

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Originally Posted by Faraday40 View Post
 

Can a flock(of 10-15) have more than 1 roo or will that cause more crowing & fighting?  (I have a 21 week & 9 week old male.) My 21 week Lav Orp does not crow much at all. (I know he's hen-pecked & not aggressive, so that may play a big part.) I suspect my 9 wk Coronation Sussex is male.  My debate is whether to keep all 3 - knowing that the CS is possibly a male - or just one pullet.  I will be placing the 3  9-wk-olds in the coop some night this week.  (For their entire life, they've been in sight of the flock but in a separate chicken tractor while the flock free ranges.) Yesterday I locked them inside the flock's run, while everyone else was out.  At some point I will slip them inside the coop while everyone's asleep, but they're sleeping inside the garage for now.  I've always introduced new pullets in this gradual method, but never a cockerel.  Will he get killed or plucked bald? 

 

Is there a good chance of the boys getting along (both young) or will they continue to fight for years?  We live in a neighborhood.  When the crowing is minimal, everyone says they "enjoy" hearing it.  I don't want to know what they'll say if I have 2 roos in a daily crow off. 


I hatched out 6 chicks under a broody in the coop.  She hatched 3 pullets and 3 roos.  All raised within the flock.  I took 2 of the roos out, and gave them their own home.  On the opposite side of the yard.  I kept the lowest roo in with the flock.  The middle roo kept flying out of his enclosure and would get back in with the flock.  Daily!  It was crazy.  When he was there those two fought.  He would try and mate with the girls, actually rape them, and he taught my nice quiet roo bad manners.  Both top roos have been placed in the freezer.  And my nice quiet roo does well with most of my girls, protect them, finds treats for them, dances for them.  But he has 2 girls he won't leave alone.  He has torn them up.  Scalped them actually.  He's the roo that is next for the freezer.  When he would mate with the girls while the other roo was there, they would hurt the hen at the head area.  He still does that but just with those 2 girls.  I have 16 layers.

 

Now I have 2 baby roo's,  7 weeks old or so, that I had to help hatch both of them.  If they won't play nice in the coop, they are both bound for the freezer.  I suppose it all depends on your flock dynamics as to whether it will work or not.  Some people have good experiences with it others don't.  Good luck with what ever  you decide to do.  And btw.  3 roos crowing is an all day affair.  And LOUD!

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Originally Posted by bradselig View Post

The first cemani chick is out! I'm so excited! I don't see any others externally pipped and this chick is a day late already. Hoping for the best with the others! I'll get pics when it and a couple tolbunts dry off and moved to a brooder! I'm so excited!

 

grats cant wait to see pics

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Originally Posted by pginsber View Post
 

 

Thanks for your insight about goat breeds and milk.  We were thinking about pygmy because of their small size--didn't even think about different breeds having different milk characteristics. Guess we hadn't gotten that far in our thought process.

 

A screaming pig at 3am would wake a person up with a real start! We're still working on the potty training phase, and they get their second set of puppy boosters today.

 

We have absolutely no good reason to keep these two pups--except that we love them so much. We feel guilty just talking about keeping them, because they would so easily get a forever home. 

 

Usually, we adopt special needs animals. Currently, we have an ancient mean Chihuahua with heart failure, a blind and deaf Cocker Spaniel, and a cat with cardiomyopathy among our old and special needs pack. If we did adopt the puppies, there would be some special needs animals out there going without a home. That makes me sad to think about.

 

Can you tell I'm trying to talk myself out of adopting them?

 

I would have difficulty butchering a brown Swiss, too!  ...A tiny meat chicken at 16-20 weeks?  If you say so...

I would love to get a brown swiss for anything!  That is one cute baby!!

 

Years ago, a friend who lived inside a trailer in the middle of the city, was given a baby piglet as a gift for finishing her chemo.  She took that darn pig everywhere with her.  She potty trained it, and would smile and complain about the 3 am wake up scream.  Thanks for the memories!

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Originally Posted by Leahs Mom View Post
 

On the fermenting...

Even if it isn't getting fully fermented, just soaking overnight goes a LONG WAY in reducing anti-nutrients.  This is well-documented so you can rest assured that at least the soaking is helping some!

 

(I can send you some research references later is you're interested...at work right now with not a lot of time)


Yes I would love some references!  Thanks for the reassurance!  Enjoy your day at work.

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Originally Posted by Campine View Post
 

I'm looking for a chicken friendly dog, my old Pyrenese finally left me last month.

So sorry for your loss.  I do not think I can help because I am in east TN but I have a Great Pyrenees mix, if you are interested PM me and I will give you more information. 

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Originally Posted by bradselig View Post

The first cemani chick is out! I'm so excited! I don't see any others externally pipped and this chick is a day late already. Hoping for the best with the others! I'll get pics when it and a couple tolbunts dry off and moved to a brooder! I'm so excited!

So excited for you!!!  Congrats!!!

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@hogster160 

Here are a couple quick links. 

When it talks about an acid medium..just a little note.  When using lacto-fermentation it creates lactic acid so if you have enough time in the bucket, you don't need to worry about adding anything else.  This provides it's own acid medium. 

 

In your situation....  If you save back some of the feed and liquid from the former batches and put your new feed into the liquid leftover with enough water to cover the new feed, you still won't need to add any acid medium as there will be enough in the bucket from the former batches.

 

But...  If you only have a quick soak time and are starting with water only, the addition of the lemon juice or ACV (even though these are NOT LACTIC ACID) will help make the anti-nutrients break down faster.

 

 

 

http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/be-kind-to-your-grains-and-your-grains-will-be-kind-to-you/

 

Quote:
Before the advent of industrial agriculture, farmers typically soaked crushed grain in hot water before feeding it to poultry and hogs

 

 

Quote:  http://www.westonaprice.org/beginner-videos/proper-preparation-of-grains-and-legumes-video-by-sarah-pope/
Science has demonstrated the wisdom of these careful preparation methods as all grains and legumes contain phytic acid, an organic acid that blocks mineral absorption in the intestinal tract. Phytic acid is neutralized in as little as 7 hours of soaking in water with small amounts of an acidic medium such as lemon juice [picture of lemons] or cider vinegar [picture of cider vinegar]. Soaking also neutralizes enzyme inhibitors present in the hulls of all seeds [picture of wheat kernels] and adds beneficial enzymes which increase the amount of nutrients present – especially the B vitamins.

 

 

http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/living-with-phytic-acid/


Edited by Leahs Mom - 9/17/14 at 8:38am

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