CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

Eissens said:

This is a chest we prefer in the Netherlands. Almost a equal dark salmon coloured chest (the lteral description of the Dutch Standard)

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Eissens said:

This is also a good chest, but her chest got more light shafts. Both hens have won a prize on the Dutch poultry show called "Noordshow".
In the Netherlands a lot of Welsumers got light shafts in their chest. All judges make a comment about it when they are judging the Welsumers. It is a point which have the attention of the breeders AND the judges. But it isn't easily to get out of your strain. In my opinion there is a connection with the brown shaft in the cockerels chest.

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Eissens said:

I also prefer to go with the Standard of the country of origin for every breed. But even in the Netherlands we have made our own Standard of some breeds from other countries (Wyandotte, Bielefelder, ....)

How did you get the information about the higher tail of the British Welsumer, that should be the original type? That's not true. The UK Standard has the same description as the Dutch Standard in this subject. I don't think the British have the original type of the Welsumer, neither we (Netherlands) have. They have the best brown egg laying Welsumer in Europe, but we got Welsumers which lay beautiful speckled eggs. Only the colour of the shell is too pale, but the speckles aren't!

It is interesting to read your thought about World War 2 in combination with the best preserved Welsumers. At that time the Welsumer was a commercial bird, there were many poultry farms around Welsum were they kept Welsumers (more than 100 on each farm) So there weren't one or two breeders to keep the Welsumers alive. So a lot of them survived the WW 2. Also Welsum and the area around it was a agricultural environment, so the people there didn't have to struggle for survival, because there was enough food. In the big citys, like Amsterdam and Rotterdam (the west of the Netherlands) they had serious problems for surviving the war. The Welsumer it self was never in trouble.

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FlashPointFarm said:

Yup, Doug beat my Wellies at the Peoria show this Spring and had his Wellie on Champion Row. It was a very small show, but very nice pullet.

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fowlman01 said:

Again...very good information and I believe the judges would have problems with this here as well. I can imagine that it would be difficult to get out and I think you are correct about the male. it works that way in other colors too.

Walt

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snowbird said:

Walt and All, Waiting to see someone comment on why there are very few Welsumer males seen in the shows in the Midwest, I wonder if it could be the White cotton in the Tail Coverts.

Doug Akers has had Welsumer females on champion row several times here in the Midwest.

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EweSheep said:

I would like to say "blond shafts"?. But I do see grey slate down feathers near the body.

How do we go about correcting it????? Does it depend on the male having more than 20 percent brown mottling on his chest for his daughters to get a bit darker shaftings?

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fowlman01 said:

Why does it have to be corrected. It sounds like it is just a problem and we don't correct the Standard to make things easier. It sounds as if it is a problem for the Dutch as well, and after seeing the first chest photo, I see no reason to change the Standard. Most of the Wellies I see in online searches are junk and we can't base our opinion on a plethora of bad birds. Now that we know that it is a problem for the Dutch as well and the judges there are complaining about, it appears that there is no mistake.

Walt

Edit: or are you asking how to correct the light centers of the feathers?

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