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On that page you are advised to re-bookmark to kippenjungle.nl... wink

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Originally Posted by Henk69 

Happy to test a new piece of software for this... wink

This is the first generation:
http://kippenjungle.nl/php/imageplustxt.php?txt=Gold%20Singlelaced%20over%20Blue&mgt=e^b/e^b,bl+/bl+,Co/Co,Ml/Ml,Pg/Pg&fgt=E/E,Bl/bl+,co+/co+,ml+/ml+,pg+/pg+

The problem is that blue could well be the same as singlelaced at the Co, Ml and Pg locus.
Also I left out the silver groundcolor that may be under the blue.

Extended black E would cover most of the silver/gold groundcolor. Half would be blue half would be black.


Thanx Henk!  I will try and absorb this.  What's scary is that every day a another little piece of the coding puzzle makes a little more sense, and I'm beginning to be able to read the formulas, and know most of the abbreviations now.  So you can teach an old dog new tricks!!!

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~Gail~ My 2003 Mid-Life Crisis:  My small backyard flock of Bantams:  Coopa Cabana Cochins!  In 2013, my focus will be to continue working to improve my Golden Laced Bantam Cochins - the Midas Project!
Got Cochins?  Want Cochins?  Check out the
2012 Cochin Breeders Directory!
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post #43 of 60

This is a great thread.

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RIP my son, Michael Bonham, Jr. 1972-2013

A son, brother, friend, wrestler, father, Army Airborne Ranger, wrestling coach, and so much more....

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post #44 of 60
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This is a great thread.

Seriously, I just found it. It is a great thread.

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"Never advance cheerfully on your late opponent without reloading. You may have used your last round, and he may not be properly dead and still spiteful." Major Hugh Pollard
 
     Wife, kids, Ringneck Pheasants, Melanistic pheasants, Bobwhite quail, Butler Bobwhite quail, Easter Eggers, Ameracuanas, two indoor cats, and a giant Yellow Labrador Retriever.  www.gamebirdeggs.com
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post #45 of 60

according to Chicken Calculator @ kippenjungle.nl/BasisEN.htm. :

 

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Mottled=Mo  Bl/bl+ is blue, Bl/Bl is splash, bl+/bl+ is wildtype
 

this site has been very helpful especially with our breeding program and understanding the punnett squares. Even has all the abbreviations to understand the colors and basics. just helpful hints for you all. I'm still new at this myself. also talking to tadkerson (Tim) or Henk69 both very informative on subject

 

 

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Effect of combined eumelanin diluters
  Blue Splash (=Blue DF) Dun Khaki (=Dun DF) Lavender Dom.White Chocolate
Blue Blue   Khaki (Platinum) White Lavender White Khaki (Mauve)
Splash (=Blue DF)   White White White White? White White
Dun Khaki (Platinum) White Chocolate   Lavender White Light Brown (Beige?)
Khaki (=Dun DF) White White   Khaki White? not possible White
Smoky Light Blue? White Chocolate? Khaki? not possible Lavender Smoky Khaki?
Lavender Lavender White? Lavender White? Lavender White Lavender
Dom.White White White White not possible White White White
Chocolate Khaki (Mauve) White Light Brown (Beige?) White Lavender White Chocolate
Blue+Dun= Khaki (Platinum)         Lavender White White?
Blue+Chocolate= Khaki (Mauve)     White? White Lavender White  
Dun+Chocolate= Light Brown (Beige?) White? White     Lavender White  

Hope this helps :)

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(3) New Hampshire Red (NHR) (4) Rhode Island Red (RIR) (5) Buff Orpington(6) Plymouth Barred Rock (PBR) 

(7) White Jersey Giants (WJG) (8) Silver Laced Wyandotte (SLW) (9) Columbian Plymouth Rock (CPR) (10) Ameraucana
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Golden Cox's Rare Poultry Hatchery flock Includes but not limited to : (1) White Leghorn (2) Black Australorp

(3) New Hampshire Red (NHR) (4) Rhode Island Red (RIR) (5) Buff Orpington(6) Plymouth Barred Rock (PBR) 

(7) White Jersey Giants (WJG) (8) Silver Laced Wyandotte (SLW) (9) Columbian Plymouth Rock (CPR) (10) Ameraucana
Hybrids : (11) Black Sex-Link (12) Gold Star Sex-Link (13) Production...

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post #46 of 60

Wow! ep.gifThis is so interesting and helpful!thumbsup.gif

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~Annie
2 EEs, 2 barred plymouth rocks, 1 black australorp, a crazy jap bantam, a buff brahma and a speckled sussex!
RIP Wilma, Guinevere the First, Kala, and Willhemina
Proud Member of team Junior! Chattin' on the very first chicken chat thread!

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post #47 of 60
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Originally Posted by Acschmitt View Post

according to Chicken Calculator @ kippenjungle.nl/BasisEN.htm. : mottled = Mo

 

this site has been very helpful especially with our breeding program and understanding the punnett squares. Even has all the abbreviations to understand the colors and basics. just helpful hints for you all. I'm still new at this myself. also talking to tadkerson (Tim) or Henk69 both very informative on subject

 

 

Hope this helps :)

 

Just remember- in the classic use of symbols (genotypes) recessive genes should be in lower case. In the case of mottling, the mottling gene is mo (lower case) and the normal gene or wild type gene is Mo+. There is a newer way of writing genotypes- I think for now it is best to stick with the classic way. The newer way would be MO*N for the normal gene and MO*MO for mottling.

 

The MO indicates the mottling locus and the N is for natural or wild type allele. MO is the allele for mottling.

 

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post #48 of 60

I always use uppercase GENE symbol and lowercase ALLELE symbol if recessive (uppercase if dominant). Example Mo-gene or Mo-locus, but mo = mottled

To use lowercase gene symbol when the first or only allele is recessive does not make sense to me. A gene or locus is not dominant or recessive on its own.

There are genes/loci that have multiple alleles that are dominant to wildtype and recessive to the wildtype allele.

Remains the problem what case to give to the wildtype allele... ;)

Explains why there is a new notation. :)

post #49 of 60

I don't know what it is about punnet squares that lets someone like me in on the complex world of genetics.

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Are your chickens not understanding the concept of nestboxes?

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post #50 of 60
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Originally Posted by earlybird10842 View Post

I don't know what it is about punnet squares that lets someone like me in on the complex world of genetics.

It is like a comic about genetics ;)

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