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Update -

Unfortunately the one with spraddle leg died. It was sleepy all the time, chirped loudly all the time, and one day it convulsed a little and died. One chick lived and he is now 6 weeks old.

I am not happy with breeding my two Japanese bantams so I don't think I'll be hatching the hen's eggs again anytime soon. I am not ready for breeds with lethal genes.. However I will be hatching ducks for March, April, and the summer months. They're nothing special but barnie mixes :]

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post #22 of 26
I've heard and read that barnyard mixes hatch better. Something to do with hybrid vigor.........
post #23 of 26
This is my second year of hatching chicken eggs both by hen and incubating. hatching can begin anytime from day 18. I am not a great believer in lockdown howver I dont interfere untill day 21 if you are incubating then check your eggs by candeling them on day 18 to make sure there is movement inside if on day 21 no pip then candle again to see if chick has internally pipped if it has give it al least 12 hours to pip. if after this time there is no sign of pippin. candle again to see if there is still movement. while candling pencil a line aroung the airsack making sure you leave room for beak. please note whenever assistance is required increase humidity best way is with a couple of small stripps of sponge dipped in warm water. if there are other unhatched eggs close bator immediately after removing egg. make a tiny hole at the wide end of egg were u have penciled the shell will be hard so be carefull to much pressure and you will puncture to deep and hit the chick I normally use a small safety pin once a tiny hole is made use tweezers. to remove the shell be carfull you only remove the shell there are two more layers of skin under it. if you spotted were the beak was when candling remove the shell from that are slowly I usually remove a centimetre circle were the beak is carefully remove a small amount of the white layer works best if you dipp your finger or cotton wool in some warm water and dab on ot first. this is very important because if you go into the membrane layer and ther chick is not dry it will bleed. if by mistake this happens dont panick just remove alittle more of the white layer under the shell then put the egg back into the bator. if more the one chick is in this position after the 12 hours you can do this procedure simultaneously on all the eggs one at a time. give the chick at least 2-3 hours to get used to breathing the air and give it time to absorb the yolk sack. after this time if chick has not made any progress it self you will have to assist all the way. remove the egg from the bator and peel back more of the shell at least half way round the again dampen the white layer and start to peel slowly making sure you dont go through the membrane work your way from around the beak again if you do hit the membrane and it starts bleeding dont panik soak the blood with cotton wool to clean and continue with the outer layer when you have removed the same amount as the shell it is time to start removing a little of the membrane. again work from around the beak very slowly and tiny bit at a time it is always helpful if you hold the egg with a warm damp flannel as it keeps the egg from drying. after removing the membrane if there is no blood then go back to peeling more of the shell and white layer as soon as you see blood clean it up and return to bator for a couple of hours. this can take a lot of time but belive me it is worth it wei
hen you see the chick running around the next day. if when removing membrane there is no blood remove it all and set the chick free of its shell return it back to the bator to dry out. sometimes even after a few hours the membrane still bleeds just peel a little more then return to bator. on the third attemp you will most probably need to remove the chick be warned there will be blood and the chick may have what looks like its insides stuck to the shell this is the yolk sack you will have to be very quick in removing the shell and membrane if there is a long strip of membrane stuck you need to get some tnread and tie a knot near to the chick as possible cut away the excess and return chick to bator with plenty of damp paper towels under it be prepared for the bleeding but dont be too alrmed leave the chick alone for as long as it needs. keep the humidy up by rewetting the sponges. the bator can still be opened to remove other eggs or chicks I have had five chicks in this position in the bator in one time. after about an hour change the bloody paper with fresh one. after at least three to four hours somnetimes longer the chick will have absorbed the sack and try to move. for the first few hours though there wont be much movement just keep checking to see if its breathing. in the last month I assisted 8 chicks in this three were from a hen after 22 days it was her first hatch all survived. once the chicks are dry then remove to broode. when my hens are in there 19 hatch day I get my bator ready just incase I need to assist always works a treat. chicks that have internally pipped but fail to hatch after 24 hours will most definatly neec assistance in this manner.hope this was helpful any queztionbs please feel free to ask. only today I assisted to chicks which were under a hen she hatched two but the other two nedded help one wasnt able to internally pip as it was stuck. practice and patience makes perfect hatching it is sometimes very tempting to peel the shell and release the chick but this will lead to failure so please be patient and good luck.
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This is my second year of hatching chicken eggs both by hen and incubating. hatching can begin anytime from day 18. I am not a great believer in lockdown howver I dont interfere untill day 21 if you are incubating then check your eggs by candeling them on day 18 to make sure there is movement inside if on day 21 no pip then candle again to see if chick has internally pipped if it has give it al least 12 hours to pip. if after this time there is no sign of pippin. candle again to see if there is still movement. while candling pencil a line aroung the airsack making sure you leave room for beak. please note whenever assistance is required increase humidity best way is with a couple of small stripps of sponge dipped in warm water. if there are other unhatched eggs close bator immediately after removing egg. make a tiny hole at the wide end of egg were u have penciled the shell will be hard so be carefull to much pressure and you will puncture to deep and hit the chick I normally use a small safety pin once a tiny hole is made use tweezers. to remove the shell be carfull you only remove the shell there are two more layers of skin under it. if you spotted were the beak was when candling remove the shell from that are slowly I usually remove a centimetre circle were the beak is carefully remove a small amount of the white layer works best if you dipp your finger or cotton wool in some warm water and dab on ot first. this is very important because if you go into the membrane layer and ther chick is not dry it will bleed. if by mistake this happens dont panick just remove alittle more of the white layer under the shell then put the egg back into the bator. if more the one chick is in this position after the 12 hours you can do this procedure simultaneously on all the eggs one at a time. give the chick at least 2-3 hours to get used to breathing the air and give it time to absorb the yolk sack. after this time if chick has not made any progress it self you will have to assist all the way. remove the egg from the bator and peel back more of the shell at least half way round the again dampen the white layer and start to peel slowly making sure you dont go through the membrane work your way from around the beak again if you do hit the membrane and it starts bleeding dont panik soak the blood with cotton wool to clean and continue with the outer layer when you have removed the same amount as the shell it is time to start removing a little of the membrane. again work from around the beak very slowly and tiny bit at a time it is always helpful if you hold the egg with a warm damp flannel as it keeps the egg from drying. after removing the membrane if there is no blood then go back to peeling more of the shell and white layer as soon as you see blood clean it up and return to bator for a couple of hours. this can take a lot of time but belive me it is worth it wei
hen you see the chick running around the next day. if when removing membrane there is no blood remove it all and set the chick free of its shell return it back to the bator to dry out. sometimes even after a few hours the membrane still bleeds just peel a little more then return to bator. on the third attemp you will most probably need to remove the chick be warned there will be blood and the chick may have what looks like its insides stuck to the shell this is the yolk sack you will have to be very quick in removing the shell and membrane if there is a long strip of membrane stuck you need to get some tnread and tie a knot near to the chick as possible cut away the excess and return chick to bator with plenty of damp paper towels under it be prepared for the bleeding but dont be too alrmed leave the chick alone for as long as it needs. keep the humidy up by rewetting the sponges. the bator can still be opened to remove other eggs or chicks I have had five chicks in this position in the bator in one time. after about an hour change the bloody paper with fresh one. after at least three to four hours somnetimes longer the chick will have absorbed the sack and try to move. for the first few hours though there wont be much movement just keep checking to see if its breathing. in the last month I assisted 8 chicks in this three were from a hen after 22 days it was her first hatch all survived. once the chicks are dry then remove to broode. when my hens are in there 19 hatch day I get my bator ready just incase I need to assist always works a treat. chicks that have internally pipped but fail to hatch after 24 hours will most definatly neec assistance in this manner.hope this was helpful any queztionbs please feel free to ask. only today I assisted to chicks which were under a hen she hatched two but the other two nedded help one wasnt able to internally pip as it was stuck. practice and patience makes perfect hatching it is sometimes very tempting to peel the shell and release the chick but this will lead to failure so please be patient and good luck.
Thanks for the great info -this is my 4th hatch and I almost always have a couple that I end up assisting - I had one chick today that pipped at the wrong end of the shell almost 24 hrs with no progress -chick is still breathing and moving. I have freed the baby's beek some now I'll wait for several more hours now before I remove more of the membrane and see how he does ( this happened to a few last year as well)
post #25 of 26
Hi hope all is going well glad the info helped I've got so used to doing this now it seems like second nature haha there always seems to be a couple of lazy ones in every hatch but I really love it just remember lots of patience and waiting for the chicken to adjust with what's going on every time your taking it in and out of the incubator good luck
post #26 of 26
Right now I have 36 beautiful chicks out of this hatch !! I've had to help 4 that were shrink wrapped a little- I still have quite a few that haven't hatched yet though and it's going on day 22- should I try candeling them tonight and see if any are save-able?


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