Originally Posted by alibabba
I had a couple like that a month ago. It was cold, they were recent additions. I watched them, I gave everyone good things. All are fit and fat now. And laying daily with a day off here and there as they need to do. Except the 2 in the ICU. My gut tells me they ate something poinsonous.... The roo has had watery (and gassey) diarrhea for a while now. They both have had bright green droppings. Like statue of liberty copper penny green. Both do seem to be resolved by food, so it must be bile. But it is shockily bright....flourescent lime/mint green. The "Avain" oh my, vet was not concerned and levels of b bacteria in fecal were "within normal ranges"...normal for dogs????n On my own...I may take to state vet on Tues if they will see not just want necropsy
Originally Posted by alibabba
Thank you so much for the huge inspiration.....I feel that if these two have survived this long...it's been well over a month I am sure...I lose track... It must not be viceral...which is odd, because the girl who I had necropsied, was completely fast and viceral. ??? So why aren't these two dead...? This virus is such a puzzle.....did they catch new strain from the crows? Do they actually have encephalitis or lead poisoning....
They both seem to try to survive!!! Even Poppy, if the food and water is right in front of him, with his spasmed neck will carefully peck and peck and peck. I wish... I wish... for a treatment.
I need to stop the virus, then allow nerve regeneration. Or maybe it's allowing the encephalitis to correct.
I feel horrible, today was too cool to put them in their special pen. I didnt think it would be a good idea.
So how bad was your girl? Poppy is hanging by a thread, it seems, he is upright on his hocks occiasonaly stands. not really eating or drinking... He could have tidbitted poisonous plants to lilly, but I would think it would be out of their systems by now.... ferns, daylilly, lily of the valley...
But I have apossum friend that comes around too, and mosquitioes EEE and of course dung eating flies and beetles. Amd of course this all came down when I changed the feed. But no one else is affected at all...
I think I should try a powerful antibioic...I need a vet to prescribe. I will need to tell them which one, because they won't know. Suggestions? This will not be something at the feed store.
I know the horrible feeling. That color green usually means starving or wasting.
I've had one in 7 years who at 8 weeks old started wing walking. She sat in my garage like a princess for a week, then I moved her to my bedroom for another 5 weeks. She started to walk again and now she's been out with the flock for 3 years. Odd things happen sometimes.
Marek's seems to most commonly attack the sciatic nerve. I've had 2 that were limping and gasping. I've had paralysis of the legs, the neck, the wings, ocular marek's, oval pupil marek's, wasting marek's (I question now), loss of peripheral vision marek's (pecking at air, not food), possible gullet marek's, loss of neck control marek's. Research has backed up the fact that there's no rhyme or reason what marek's will attack first, most commonly it's the sciatic nerves, but I think it can attack the weakest area as well. Hard to prove.
Necropsy is the best way to go.
If they are not wasting and can eat and drink, I wait longer before euthanizing.
EEE is a possibility, not common but it does occur.
You can get the antibiotics on line without a script. Tractor supply carries some. Tylan can be gotten on Amazon. Without a script. I've gotten Tylan, sulfadimethoxine, amoxicillin, penicillin, Lyncomycin-streptomycin 50, and others, syringes, needles, injectables. I have been getting at KY vet, (Foy's) Pigeon sites, livestock sites. I'm sure someone here knows other places that don't require prescriptions. Michael Apple comes to mind, Casportpony, Nambroth, and other regular posters here. I've given a 4 year old gasper Nystatin powder on a cube of bread everyday and she stopped gasping, possible Aspergillosis .