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post #11 of 19
@TwoCrows
Do you have an update on your Black Astra? I have one that is doing the exactly same thing. I am going to try the water supplement.
post #12 of 19
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@TwoCrows
Do you have an update on your Black Astra? I have one that is doing the exactly same thing. I am going to try the water supplement.


You know what I found to work like a charm?...Human Caltrate. This stuff has all the right minerals to calcium for even the most troublesome shell less layer to put a shell on.

1/2 a pill a day. What I do is cut this 1/2 pill into a few small pieces and put the pieces in raisins. The bird will never know they are being medicated. They should put a good shell on within the next day or two.

Keep up with the 1/2 pill a day until you start to see a lot of calcium bumps on the shell, which means they have a bit excess calcium, then you can cut back to every other or every 3 days. Then use as needed.

This should work for your hen, however if this hen is getting really up there in years, (over 5 years old), her uterus may not be functioning well enough to form a shell.

Good luck and keep us posted! :-)

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post #13 of 19

I just tried the Caltrate this morning with a seven-year old GLW who has been laying regularly, only shell-less eggs. She's also my most recalcitrant hen, who is never cooperative, no matter what I need to handle her for.

 

I tried the raisin trick and she gobbled the pieces of Caltrate right down. I realize she may be so old that her body no longer is able to make an egg shell around her egg, but this is worth a try.

 

I appreciate the tip.

post #14 of 19
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I just tried the Caltrate this morning with a seven-year old GLW who has been laying regularly, only shell-less eggs. She's also my most recalcitrant hen, who is never cooperative, no matter what I need to handle her for.

 

I tried the raisin trick and she gobbled the pieces of Caltrate right down. I realize she may be so old that her body no longer is able to make an egg shell around her egg, but this is worth a try.

 

I appreciate the tip.

I hope it works for her. Keep us posted! :-)

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul. ~Emily Dickinson~

 

You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

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You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

Treating Sour Crop and Impacted Crop                                    Raising Quail

 

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post #15 of 19

I sure hope Two Crows sees this because I took the advice about giving Caltrate to a hen who was consistently laying shell-less eggs. It works!

 

I have a seven-year old SLW hen named Irene who has been passing soft eggs from her perch in the coop early before I get up. It's remarkable in itself that she's still laying at all, and I thought I have nothing to lose by trying the Caltrate. About a week ago, I started giving her two quarters of a pill wrapped in raisins each morning. A couple days ago, Irene was in the nest box and she laid a very thin-shelled egg! It had a shell, even if it was thin! A big improvement.

 

I continued the Caltrate and this morning, Irene was again in the nest box. I noticed her coming off the nest, and took a look. There was a very warm, perfect egg, still wet on the pointy end!

 

So, the Caltrate therapy definitely works! I had my doubts that it would help because Irene is definitely very old, but she's in good health otherwise, so apparently all she needed was some help assimilating her calcium! I have another seven-year old SLW hen Lilith who is still laying, too, but with the same problem, though not as bad as Irene's eggs were. I'm putting her on Caltrate, too.

 

Thanks, Two Crows!

post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by TwoCrows View Post


You know what I found to work like a charm?...Human Caltrate. This stuff has all the right minerals to calcium for even the most troublesome shell less layer to put a shell on.

1/2 a pill a day. What I do is cut this 1/2 pill into a few small pieces and put the pieces in raisins. The bird will never know they are being medicated. They should put a good shell on within the next day or two.

Keep up with the 1/2 pill a day until you start to see a lot of calcium bumps on the shell, which means they have a bit excess calcium, then you can cut back to every other or every 3 days. Then use as needed.

This should work for your hen, however if this hen is getting really up there in years, (over 5 years old), her uterus may not be functioning well enough to form a shell.

Good luck and keep us posted! :-)

 

 

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Originally Posted by azygous View Post
 

I sure hope Two Crows sees this because I took the advice about giving Caltrate to a hen who was consistently laying shell-less eggs. It works!

 

I have a seven-year old SLW hen named Irene who has been passing soft eggs from her perch in the coop early before I get up. It's remarkable in itself that she's still laying at all, and I thought I have nothing to lose by trying the Caltrate. About a week ago, I started giving her two quarters of a pill wrapped in raisins each morning. A couple days ago, Irene was in the nest box and she laid a very thin-shelled egg! It had a shell, even if it was thin! A big improvement.

 

I continued the Caltrate and this morning, Irene was again in the nest box. I noticed her coming off the nest, and took a look. There was a very warm, perfect egg, still wet on the pointy end!

 

So, the Caltrate therapy definitely works! I had my doubts that it would help because Irene is definitely very old, but she's in good health otherwise, so apparently all she needed was some help assimilating her calcium! I have another seven-year old SLW hen Lilith who is still laying, too, but with the same problem, though not as bad as Irene's eggs were. I'm putting her on Caltrate, too.

 

Thanks, Two Crows!

 

Great thread!!!! Thanks for the follow up posts,  both

@azygous and @TwoCrows

 

I have a NN Turken who is petite and has had a similar issue after laying eggs daily through the winter. She was laying soft shell or no shell eggs, but then appeared to be ill.

She is better after seeing the vet (she probably had some internal egg laying and was on antibiotics), but I suspect will need monitoring and some maintenance supplementation. 

The other 3 hens are fine.

There are a few different types of Caltrate tabs (some have added minerals, etc). Is this the version you use (generic brand)?

 

 

Thanks again!!!!!


Edited by lynnehd - 5/8/16 at 8:28am
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by azygous View Post
 

I sure hope Two Crows sees this because I took the advice about giving Caltrate to a hen who was consistently laying shell-less eggs. It works!

 

I have a seven-year old SLW hen named Irene who has been passing soft eggs from her perch in the coop early before I get up. It's remarkable in itself that she's still laying at all, and I thought I have nothing to lose by trying the Caltrate. About a week ago, I started giving her two quarters of a pill wrapped in raisins each morning. A couple days ago, Irene was in the nest box and she laid a very thin-shelled egg! It had a shell, even if it was thin! A big improvement.

 

I continued the Caltrate and this morning, Irene was again in the nest box. I noticed her coming off the nest, and took a look. There was a very warm, perfect egg, still wet on the pointy end!

 

So, the Caltrate therapy definitely works! I had my doubts that it would help because Irene is definitely very old, but she's in good health otherwise, so apparently all she needed was some help assimilating her calcium! I have another seven-year old SLW hen Lilith who is still laying, too, but with the same problem, though not as bad as Irene's eggs were. I'm putting her on Caltrate, too.

 

Thanks, Two Crows!

I am so happy the calcium worked out for your hen!!! Yay!!! At some point however, in some birds the shell gland can stop working all together and no amount of added calcium will fix this issue. But keep using it as long as it is working! You could probably increase the calcium to one full tablet a day if the shells start to get thin again. I wouldn't go over one full tablet though. I have a 5 year old hen that also was laying thin shells and yolks off the roost bar a few weeks ago, she too is on 1/2 a tab a day and has been laying really nice shelled eggs every couple days since getting her on the calcium.  As we speak is in the nest box laying an egg!! (hopefully with a shell on it! ;))

 

 

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You know what I found to work like a charm?...Human Caltrate. This stuff has all the right minerals to calcium for even the most troublesome shell less layer to put a shell on.

1/2 a pill a day. What I do is cut this 1/2 pill into a few small pieces and put the pieces in raisins. The bird will never know they are being medicated. They should put a good shell on within the next day or two.

Keep up with the 1/2 pill a day until you start to see a lot of calcium bumps on the shell, which means they have a bit excess calcium, then you can cut back to every other or every 3 days. Then use as needed.

This should work for your hen, however if this hen is getting really up there in years, (over 5 years old), her uterus may not be functioning well enough to form a shell.

Good luck and keep us posted! :-)

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by azygous View Post
 

I sure hope Two Crows sees this because I took the advice about giving Caltrate to a hen who was consistently laying shell-less eggs. It works!

 

I have a seven-year old SLW hen named Irene who has been passing soft eggs from her perch in the coop early before I get up. It's remarkable in itself that she's still laying at all, and I thought I have nothing to lose by trying the Caltrate. About a week ago, I started giving her two quarters of a pill wrapped in raisins each morning. A couple days ago, Irene was in the nest box and she laid a very thin-shelled egg! It had a shell, even if it was thin! A big improvement.

 

I continued the Caltrate and this morning, Irene was again in the nest box. I noticed her coming off the nest, and took a look. There was a very warm, perfect egg, still wet on the pointy end!

 

So, the Caltrate therapy definitely works! I had my doubts that it would help because Irene is definitely very old, but she's in good health otherwise, so apparently all she needed was some help assimilating her calcium! I have another seven-year old SLW hen Lilith who is still laying, too, but with the same problem, though not as bad as Irene's eggs were. I'm putting her on Caltrate, too.

 

Thanks, Two Crows!

 

Great thread!!!! Thanks for the follow up posts,  both

@azygous and @TwoCrows

 

I have a NN Turken who is petite and has had a similar issue after laying eggs daily through the winter. She was laying soft shell or no shell eggs, but then appeared to be ill.

She is better after seeing the vet (she probably had some internal egg laying and was on antibiotics), but I suspect will need monitoring and some maintenance supplementation. 

The other 3 hens are fine.

There are a few different types of Caltrate tabs (some have added minerals, etc). Is this the version you use (generic brand)?

 

 

Thanks again!!!!!

Yes, that is perfect! Caltrate is a brand name, however this has the exact same ingredients. Any calcium that also contains Vit D and Magnesium along with the Calcium is what they need to put on a nice shell. Good luck and I hope it helps your bird as well!! :-)

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul. ~Emily Dickinson~

 

You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

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Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul. ~Emily Dickinson~

 

You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

Treating Sour Crop and Impacted Crop                                    Raising Quail

 

How to Treat Egg Binding in Hens 

 

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post #18 of 19

Here are Lilith and Irene, my two geriatric egg layers.

 

 

They are benefiting so splendidly from the Caltrate, and I use the Walmart inexpensive brand, they are each laying an egg every other day, and mostly they are perfect eggs.

 

As soon as I notice a thin shelled egg under the roosting perch in the morning, and I found two this morning under each of these two old ladies, I give them half a tab of Caltrate for several days until the eggs are showing up in the nest boxes intact. Then I suspend the Caltrate as long as they lay good eggs.

 

By the way, they quickly caught on to the raisins disguising the pill quarters and simply liberated the raisins and left the pill fragments. I now smear a tiny dab of peanut butter around the two quarter tabs, hold it under their beaks and they, hee hee, think it's a rare treat. See, I'm smarter than a chicken.:lol:

post #19 of 19
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Here are Lilith and Irene, my two geriatric egg layers.



They are benefiting so splendidly from the Caltrate, and I use the Walmart inexpensive brand, they are each laying an egg every other day, and mostly they are perfect eggs.

As soon as I notice a thin shelled egg under the roosting perch in the morning, and I found two this morning under each of these two old ladies, I give them half a tab of Caltrate for several days until the eggs are showing up in the nest boxes intact. Then I suspend the Caltrate as long as they lay good eggs.

By the way, they quickly caught on to the raisins disguising the pill quarters and simply liberated the raisins and left the pill fragments. I now smear a tiny dab of peanut butter around the two quarter tabs, hold it under their beaks and they, hee hee, think it's a rare treat. See, I'm smarter than a chicken.lol.png

Awww....they are adorable!! Yeah, they sure are smart. I was using dried cherries for a while as they are bigger than raisins...my girl figured it out too! I have been crushing the tabs and using Gerber Baby food to get it down her throat now. LOL I have her on Hawthorn for her heart too, so it is easier just to mix it all together in baby food. Hey, no matter what you have to do, get it in them anyway you can!

And I use the generic Walmart calcium too! Ha!

Enjoy those geriatric hens!! smile.png

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul. ~Emily Dickinson~

 

You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

Treating Sour Crop and Impacted Crop                                    Raising Quail

 

How to Treat Egg Binding in Hens 

 

Leg, Foot and Toe Issues in Poultry of All Ages

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Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul. ~Emily Dickinson~

 

You have not lived today until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.  ~John Bunyan~

 

Treating Sour Crop and Impacted Crop                                    Raising Quail

 

How to Treat Egg Binding in Hens 

 

Leg, Foot and Toe Issues in Poultry of All Ages

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