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Originally Posted by joebryant 

RAISING MEALWORMS THE EASY WAY
by Joe D. Bryant

Revised August 3, 2006


You will need to gather the following before you begin



--- One RUBBERMAID - Jumbo Storage Box - 50 gallons - 42.7 X 21.4 X18.0  (Sells for about $15 at Lowes and Menards, about $16 with wheels)

Note: The container must be opaque because mealworms must be raised in the dark.

--- One 50# bag of WHEAT BRAN - about $10 from any feed store, and bake what you need as you need it in an oven until it's all hot enough to destroy any eggs of mealy bugs, especially if you fear your wife's wrath as much as I do. I store my extra in the bag in my chest freezer until I need more for the mealworms.

--- 2 paper grocery sacks (cut off the bottom, cut up the sides, and fold in half and put on top 
--- CARROTS (whole) and/or potatoes cut in half, cut side down (make three columns lengthwise). They must have these for moisture. Carrots are much easier to work with and dont cost that much more than potatoes.

--- 1,000 large, 1,000 medium, 1,000 small MEALWORMS Order them from  www.reptilefood.com  for about $25 including shipping and handling

Pour four to six inches of wheat bran into the container (add more later when you see that they need it), put the carrots/potatoes on top, dump all the mealworms on top, cover them with the grocery sack paper, and do nothing until the large mealworms turn into white, motionless grub that then turn into beetles.   Once you have several hundred beetles, start collecting/using large mealworms that crawl between the folded paper by sliding them into a container.   Do this every other day whether you need them or not; they can be kept indefinitely in a ventilated container in the refrigerator.   Mealworms being kept in the refrigerator should be taken out for two or three hours each week so that they can be fed wheat bran and watered with carrots. Don't bother with the dead beetles; the baby worms will suck them dry, and their body parts will sift to the bottom of the container along with the feces dust and molting skins that the mealworms produce from eating the wheat bran. 
Notes:
1. Don't use egg crates, etc., they're a pain in the neck. With the paper sacks, you can slide the large mealworms into a container easily. Carrots leave only a long, hard core; they and the dried potato skins should be removed occasionally.
2. For some reason that I cannot explain, only the large worms crawl into the folded paper once the process starts.   Stay up with removing most (not all) of them, or you will have a million mealworms on your hands in a very short time, and an odor will develop.   That happened to me, and a million mealworms is not an exaggeration.   Each pair of beetles will produce several hundred babies.   Figure it out for yourself, 60 beetles will produce several hundred babies for each of 30 days in a month, SO STAY UP WITH THEM.
3. Keep the container in a heated room during spring and summer, but store in a cool garage when you will not need mealworms.   Heat and moisture are needed for growth. During the summer, I just lay the lid over the top; during the winter, the handles of the Rubbermaid Jumbo Box have vent holes that provide all the ventilation they need. Mealworms will multiply at temperatures ranging from 65 - 100 degrees F. The optimum seems to be about 80 degrees. I keep my house at about 74 degrees during the summer. I only keep them inside because it's more convenient.

4. Remember that this is not rocket science; the mealworms know what theyre supposed to do and will do what theyre supposed to do. All you have to do is be sure that they always have enough wheat bran and carrots.

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post #112 of 131

how often will I have to add more wheat bran?  How often for the veggies?  How soon will I be able to harvest the worms for the hens?

also, anyone ever used brewers grain? I have a source to get that cheap or free and wondered if that would be good since it has moisture in it?

One more question.  How likely are they to escape their container?

post #113 of 131

Thanks to Joe Bryant for the informative meal worm farming post!  I now have a complete life cycle of meal worms for my chickies!

Why did the chicken cross the road? EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken?COLONEL SANDERS: I missed one? ERNEST HEMINGWAY: To die. In the rain. GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask why. Someone told us the chicken crossed the road, & that was good enough for us. CPT. JAMES T. KIRK: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
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Why did the chicken cross the road? EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken?COLONEL SANDERS: I missed one? ERNEST HEMINGWAY: To die. In the rain. GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask why. Someone told us the chicken crossed the road, & that was good enough for us. CPT. JAMES T. KIRK: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
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post #114 of 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by joebryant 

RAISING MEALWORMS THE EASY WAY
by Joe D. Bryant

Revised August 3, 2006


You will need to gather the following before you begin



--- One RUBBERMAID - Jumbo Storage Box - 50 gallons - 42.7 X 21.4 X18.0  (Sells for about $15 at Lowes and Menards, about $16 with wheels)

Note: The container must be opaque because mealworms must be raised in the dark.

--- One 50# bag of WHEAT BRAN - about $10 from any feed store, and bake what you need as you need it in an oven until it's all hot enough to destroy any eggs of mealy bugs, especially if you fear your wife's wrath as much as I do. I store my extra in the bag in my chest freezer until I need more for the mealworms.

--- 2 paper grocery sacks (cut off the bottom, cut up the sides, and fold in half and put on top 
--- CARROTS (whole) and/or potatoes cut in half, cut side down (make three columns lengthwise). They must have these for moisture. Carrots are much easier to work with and dont cost that much more than potatoes.

--- 1,000 large, 1,000 medium, 1,000 small MEALWORMS Order them from  www.reptilefood.com  for about $25 including shipping and handling

Pour four to six inches of wheat bran into the container (add more later when you see that they need it), put the carrots/potatoes on top, dump all the mealworms on top, cover them with the grocery sack paper, and do nothing until the large mealworms turn into white, motionless grub that then turn into beetles.   Once you have several hundred beetles, start collecting/using large mealworms that crawl between the folded paper by sliding them into a container.   Do this every other day whether you need them or not; they can be kept indefinitely in a ventilated container in the refrigerator.   Mealworms being kept in the refrigerator should be taken out for two or three hours each week so that they can be fed wheat bran and watered with carrots. Don't bother with the dead beetles; the baby worms will suck them dry, and their body parts will sift to the bottom of the container along with the feces dust and molting skins that the mealworms produce from eating the wheat bran. 
Notes:
1. Don't use egg crates, etc., they're a pain in the neck. With the paper sacks, you can slide the large mealworms into a container easily. Carrots leave only a long, hard core; they and the dried potato skins should be removed occasionally.
2. For some reason that I cannot explain, only the large worms crawl into the folded paper once the process starts.   Stay up with removing most (not all) of them, or you will have a million mealworms on your hands in a very short time, and an odor will develop.   That happened to me, and a million mealworms is not an exaggeration.   Each pair of beetles will produce several hundred babies.   Figure it out for yourself, 60 beetles will produce several hundred babies for each of 30 days in a month, SO STAY UP WITH THEM.
3. Keep the container in a heated room during spring and summer, but store in a cool garage when you will not need mealworms.   Heat and moisture are needed for growth. During the summer, I just lay the lid over the top; during the winter, the handles of the Rubbermaid Jumbo Box have vent holes that provide all the ventilation they need. Mealworms will multiply at temperatures ranging from 65 - 100 degrees F. The optimum seems to be about 80 degrees. I keep my house at about 74 degrees during the summer. I only keep them inside because it's more convenient.

4. Remember that this is not rocket science; the mealworms know what theyre supposed to do and will do what theyre supposed to do. All you have to do is be sure that they always have enough wheat bran and carrots.


We started small: 50  to start with.

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NPIP Tested Clean

 

           Eggs available:   Bourbon Red and Sweetgrass Turkeys

             Black Copper Marans, Buff Orpingtons and Speckled Sussex    

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post #115 of 131
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Originally Posted by chickbird 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy huhn 
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Originally Posted by chickbird 

i know that it is being done, but is it considered a biohazard to mail mealworms or beetles by the post office.  i sent some packages (not mealworms) and was asked if there was anything hazardous in the package.  anyone asked the post office about this???????????????


Where is the hazard?wink All happy, healthy mealworms, never been refrigerated like the ones you buy in a pet store. Promised that I have all hand raised them, so they will not bite anyone. Have to admit that my chickens LOVE them like nothing else and they are running towards me like dynamit D and I have to watch my hands and fingers when I feed mealworms. But I guess my chickens are a hazard at that point......... lau
I have sold the 120 K locally on "Craigs List", but have mailed some in the past from the West Coast to Virginia at the East Coast. No questions asked by the post office, the lady just laughed when I volunteered the information about what was in the package.

However, if you can post a link here from the USPS that shipping of mealworms or beetles are considered to be bio hazardous, I would be interested in that information as I am having some excellent mealworms right now.


my reason for asking, i have some extra beetles that i was going to offer to someone who wanted a start for postage only, but did not want to send them if they are considered biohardous.
from your post you have used postal service and ups for them, is this right?///thanks


No, they are not considered bio hazardous by the USPS. People mail ants for ant farms, earthworms, mealworms, baby chicks, and all sorts of other live insects and animals. There are provisions for such in the Domestic Mail Manual, the bible for all things postal. There is a version of this book online at the USPS site but it's not easy to find. Just take my word. Crazy Huhn is doing fine and no one would question her shipping method.

- Retiree from USPS

== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
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== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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post #116 of 131

We've just started our first mealworm breeding project with 3 6 quart Sterlite blue containers! We're using wheat germ, carrots and a few other vegetable scraps for bedding and food. Starting out with 500 small mealworms, but having seen how much room is left over in the container, I'm going back for more!

 

A few questions, though.

 

With our setup, how many more worms can we support with a 6 quart container?

 

We're keeping them in the coop with our chick brooders, so we're hoping the infrared lamps should keep the worms nice and cozy. Especially since, in the Pacific Northwest we're known for COLD and WET. We've set up a thermometer and a humidity gauge, what's the best range we should go for in the worm bin? Will that differ for the developing eggs? How about the beetles?

 

We've drilled holes in the sides of the containers - how much air do the worms need? How will we know if the holes we've drilled in aren't enough? (Please don't let it be massive die off!)

 

 

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post #117 of 131
All I really know about numbers per size of container is that if all you can see is a mass of worms, it's probably too many and if you can't really see any, there's too few.

They don't really need a ton of air circulation. What you've already done is probably more than they even need. I have a really large container with about a 3"x8" section cut out of the top and covered it with screening. And they're doing fine. I suppose if you start seeing dead ones then something is wrong, and it not then it's all right. Though sometimes you'll see a bunch of dead worms at first if you got them from a pet store.

== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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post #118 of 131

I keep asking folks..."How many worms per square inch/foot/yard, please!?" and I keep getting "We don't know!" as an answer. :)

 

Right at the moment, I have a deeply bedded (8" or so of wheat bran) container which currently holds in the neighborhood of 2700 beetles.  There are beetles at all depths and already a bunch of teensy bitsy babies, so I'm assuming that they are reasonably content.  It's one of the relatively large Sterilite containers (six bucks on sale, usually runs about 9 -11 or so)....12x18" or 12x24"....my dog ate my measuring tape, so it's a guess! :)  It stays topless for maximum air circulation.

 

Worms...In the typical dollar store sized shoebox plastic container, about 1,000 seem pretty happy in about 3" of bran.  I usually stack them criss-cross style, without lids, to assure maximum ventilation.

 

Now I have my first box of bedding-with-baby-bugs, and man, is it PACKED with teensys, all the way up to smalls!  I don't doubt I'll have to split off shoeboxes as they get old enough to sort out.

 

All my containers, BTW, are clear.  The bedroom tends to stay dim, and about oh...60-65 degrees F.  I started with these guys back in...oh, early November, as I recall.

 

Hope that helps!

post #119 of 131
I couldn't tell you how many beetles or worms or whatever I have in any space simply because I started with an unknown number and I'm not going to count them LOL. I'm betting a lot of folks are like that. Great answer onafixedincome. I think that's the best I've read on the question

== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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post #120 of 131

Those are Soldier Fly maggots and are great for the compost pile.  They devour everything.  They are also great chicken food.  There are internet sites about setting up buckets in order to raise them for chicken and fish food.  Don't worry about them.  I found them in my compost and searched the web and found alot of info about them.  They are totally different than house fly maggots.

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