Originally Posted by GerbilsOnToast
Originally Posted by OrganicFarmWife
Pictures of meat? Or cattle?
I'm asking for credentials. It's obvious you love to see yourself type - you've been on BYC for five months, and made over 3k posts - an average of 20 posts a day. Posts as vital as "I don't know" in response to other people's questions, other posts containing misinformation. Real farmers don't have that kind of time on their hands - especially in spring, and choosing a username doesn't make it reality.
The direction of the thread was trying to figure out how Raech could come as close as possible to what she WANTS to put on a small piece of land.
If you were a farmer, you'd know that you don't bring in livestock just assuming you can depend on another farmer to feed that livestock. Only cash crops are grown with an eye to having more than you need - and they're sold as quickly as possible to the highest offer. Cash flow is vital to farms. Your neighboring farmer is not a grocery store for animals; unless you have a pre-existing *very* good relationship, he's not going to happily go pull out the tractor or skid-steer to fetch you a bale of hay every few days, and if he does so at all, you'll be paying premium prices. He is also not going to hold back enough to get *your* animals through the winter if he has a chance to sell it to someone else first - and when hay is scarce, he WILL have that chance. The feed store, OTOH, *is* a grocery store for animals - but the hay they carry is often expensive and quality varies widely.
If you were grass cattle farmer, you'd know that an adult brood cow consumes approximately 75lbs of hay per day, and in the two months that has to be prepared for anywhere besides the deep south, that's 4500 lbs of hay - about five 5x6foot round bales, or approximately fifty squares per cow. Raech lives in Washington; winter may or may not be grazeable any given year - but it's guaranteed to be wet. If Raech is going to prepare for winter with hay alone, and have a reliable store of it, she's going to need another building to store it in. That building will require ingress/egress areas; the total space requirement, on a very small homestead, is significant. Organic certification is all about record keeping, and much of farming is about making calculations based on those records and other data you know - often on the fly. You haven't demonstrated any of these skills.
I am uninterested in providing you credentials (though if anyone else here needs them I would be happy to provide) the key words are farmers wife. I am home with two little children 24/7 I live in the middle of no where so have no one to talk to except a girlfriend who calls to discuss children. I do help as I can on our farm, and hopping as they grow I will get more freedom. Generally I am on here while sitting on the couch wrestling babies. All of my posts were over winter, they will probably, and have reduced as things thaw out and I can get everyone out of doors.
We keep our hay outside, hundreds of bails, not a problem. I agree if she is going with square bails she will need at least a tarp over them, I do not know many people that still make square bails.
Many people around us rely on other farmers to buy their hay, we have sold our excess numerous times. I will agree it will be harder to get dairy quality hay, but I still believe it is a very viable option. And I think it was chicken girl who is looking for the cattle.
ETA: Oh and as far as that poor girl on the other post goes that just wanted organic eggs. I disagree there is a difference between organic you produce at home and organic you buy commercially. Commercial standards are strick, mostly to prevent conventional farmers from flooding the market. A person can grow chickens, happily eat their eggs and enjoy all the benefits (probably more benefits) a store bought organic egg could provide. They do not need to follow the same standards a commercial farmer does. As long as she does not try to sell them organic, there should be no problem with medicated chick feedEdited by OrganicFarmWife - 4/1/16 at 8:15am