What to do with Rooster?

Thank-you so much from a huge wuss! The procaine thing makes sense as they aren't supposed to have anything with the 'caine or cane' correct?
That's a good question... People here on BYC are always saying that about neosporin, yet they'll advise people to use the penicillin that places like TSC sell, which is I believe has procaine in it. In Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook, the only bird listed under penicillin g is a turkey, and it says to use with caution in smaller birds as procaine toxicity is a concern.
 
That's a good question... People here on BYC are always saying that about neosporin, yet they'll advise people to use the penicillin that places like TSC sell, which is I believe has procaine in it. In Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook, the only bird listed under penicillin g is a turkey, and it says to use with caution in smaller birds as procaine toxicity is a concern.
The next question would be what/how is it toxic. Is it because it doesn't metabolize quickly, which would make some sense, or is it something else? It's like cats, you can't give them asprin right? Not true, you can but only 1/2 of a baby asprin every other day as their systems don't break it down and more often it would build to a toxic level and cause kidney failure among other things.
 
The next question would be what/how is it toxic. Is it because it doesn't metabolize quickly, which would make some sense, or is it something else? It's like cats, you can't give them asprin right? Not true, you can but only 1/2 of a baby asprin every other day as their systems don't break it down and more often it would build to a toxic level and cause kidney failure among other things.
I don't know for sure... A fellow BYC person's vet said it was because their hearts are too small.

I had to give my cat aspirin as you stated above, but I do believe that ibuprofen and acetaminophen *are* toxic to cats.
 
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So we have been talking about these respiratory diseases and how easily they spread. I was thinking about this as I was buying a new waterer for Manny from TSC the other day. They had all the chicken stuff right next to the chicks they are selling at the store. So can the chicks carry these diseases? If so I imagine they could be spreading germs on the products that we buy that are sitting right next to them. I bleached the waterer before I took it out to the Roo but it was just a thought I was curious about.
 
So we have been talking about these respiratory diseases and how easily they spread. I was thinking about this as I was buying a new waterer for Manny from TSC the other day. They had all the chicken stuff right next to the chicks they are selling at the store. So can the chicks carry these diseases? If so I imagine they could be spreading germs on the products that we buy that are sitting right next to them. I bleached the waterer before I took it out to the Roo but it was just a thought I was curious about.

How is he doing? What medications are you giving him, if anything? If the chicks come from a hatchery that has a particular disease, sure the chicks can have the disease and/or be a carrier. But I think most hatcheries are very careful and pass inspections to prevent spreading of diseases (check the hatchery for sure, not all are very concerned about diseases and certifications). You did the right thing, sterilize anything you buy new before giving it to the chickens. Plus, I do that monthly for all my feeders/waterers.
 
So we have been talking about these respiratory diseases and how easily they spread. I was thinking about this as I was buying a new waterer for Manny from TSC the other day. They had all the chicken stuff right next to the chicks they are selling at the store. So can the chicks carry these diseases? If so I imagine they could be spreading germs on the products that we buy that are sitting right next to them. I bleached the waterer before I took it out to the Roo but it was just a thought I was curious about.
Good Point!!! Yes, you are so very right, but let's take this one step further. As Betsy57 said in her post, most hatcheries do try to make sure that their stock is disease free. Try is the operative word. Could a disease be transferred that way? Of course. But, let's look at all of the people coming into the store and looking at those chicks. Some don't know the barriers set up are to keep them away from those chicks. Those are for the 'other guy' right? Who knows what some of these people have brought into the store with them! Right now, I won't even go into my Tractor Supply store because I know I have Marek's in my flock. Until those chicks are gone, I can't in good conscience enter that store and possibly leave something that would pass this on to someone else. Ain't happening. The IB I just had in my birds is bad enough, Marek's is awful. I have seen people come into the store to purchase chicks and tell the worker that all of his birds died last month so he needs to get more. Whoa! And they died from what?

For the most part we can only guess at what our birds have, since we aren't Vets, but with a little work and help from others we can come darned close to an accurate diagnosis, if not right on the money. This is very important. Both for you and any new birds you want to add and also how you interact with other people that have birds. No one wants to be a 'Typhoid Mary' and it is too easy to do so if you aren't paying attention.
 

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