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Anybody raised them before? got any pics/info?


Edited by QuailRaiser - 8/27/13 at 8:41pm

Pharaoh, Australian, Rosetta, and Tuxedo Coturnix, a trio of Lady Amherst's and a pair of Palawan Peacock Pheasants

-Chickens and Quail are NOT compatible. Chickens can carry diseases as well as trample them. Don't say I didn't warn you!

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Pharaoh, Australian, Rosetta, and Tuxedo Coturnix, a trio of Lady Amherst's and a pair of Palawan Peacock Pheasants

-Chickens and Quail are NOT compatible. Chickens can carry diseases as well as trample them. Don't say I didn't warn you!

-Check the stickys before you post!!!!!

- If anyone's interested in fly tying, here's some recepies I came up with for poultry/quail feathers

http://www.backya...

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I did a Google search and some pheasant breeders also breed them. They look like a good meat bird. I'm considering keeping them in future if I can get hold of them. (I don't know if anyone in Australia has any). By the looks of it they can fly. 

 

Just looking at the females, there's a large degree of differences in color, patterning and also in the sizes, so I would guess there are at least two variations or at least one subspecies. I haven't studied them though.

 

 

From what little I read today, it seems they tame well, have been kept in aviaries for a long time, adjust well to many climates and altogether sound like a viable pet or livestock species.

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Self-sufficiency farmer with all sorts of all sorts, aiming to get more sorts of more sorts. Working on my own strains & breeds. 

Athlete, nerd, artist, gamer, writer, maker-of-stuff, perpetual student. Ignorance is not bliss, it's suffering! I may be strange but I'm not malicious, so if I give offense please reconsider taking it. ;)

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They don't do so well in hot climates as they are from the himilayas.They love to forage.As far as meat birds,it would be a very expensive meal as they go for 400.00-500.00 pr for adults.

In N.H.,Tony.

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I did a Google search and some pheasant breeders also breed them. They look like a good meat bird. I'm considering keeping them in future if I can get hold of them. (I don't know if anyone in Australia has any). By the looks of it they can fly. 

 

Just looking at the females, there's a large degree of differences in color, patterning and also in the sizes, so I would guess there are at least two variations or at least one subspecies. I haven't studied them though.

 

 

From what little I read today, it seems they tame well, have been kept in aviaries for a long time, adjust well to many climates and altogether sound like a viable pet or livestock species.

 

How could you eat such a beautiful bird?!  They are number one on my wish list... Almost bought a breeder pair at an auction but they sold for $500.
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How could you eat such a beautiful bird?!  They are number one on my wish list... Almost bought a breeder pair at an auction but they sold for $500.

 

That's about what breeders go for.I have a 2013 male if you are interested in him.

In N.H.,Tony.

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 How could you eat such a beautiful bird?!  They are number one on my wish list... Almost bought a breeder pair at an auction but they sold for $500.

Chickens, turkeys, geese, ducks, peacocks, quail, poultry in general really, as well as sheep, goats, cattle, deer, etc are all beautiful in my sight too; I eat them though.

 

Granted, monals are quite spectacular birds, but my little bit of reading up on them recently had given me the impression they are kept in quantity in some places and "easily bred in aviculture" according to Wikipedia. Perhaps this was an incorrect impression. 

 

Either way, if I set up a successful breeding program and had excess with inferior genetics, I'd probably eat them. This would all be dependent on how common they are. I wouldn't eat a good breeder of any species, let alone buy a rare bird to eat it, even if it were cheap enough. Nor would I try to develop livestock breeds out of rare species. 

 

If they're endangered I would leave them to the experts and conservationists unless I had the land to work on helping conserve the species, in which case I wouldn't be treating them as livestock at all. I'm primarily keen on self sufficient farming, but have a lot of interest in conservation as well and if I find myself with the ability I'll pursue that interest. 

Self-sufficiency farmer with all sorts of all sorts, aiming to get more sorts of more sorts. Working on my own strains & breeds. 

Athlete, nerd, artist, gamer, writer, maker-of-stuff, perpetual student. Ignorance is not bliss, it's suffering! I may be strange but I'm not malicious, so if I give offense please reconsider taking it. ;)

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Self-sufficiency farmer with all sorts of all sorts, aiming to get more sorts of more sorts. Working on my own strains & breeds. 

Athlete, nerd, artist, gamer, writer, maker-of-stuff, perpetual student. Ignorance is not bliss, it's suffering! I may be strange but I'm not malicious, so if I give offense please reconsider taking it. ;)

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They are not as easy as they say they are to raise.They lay every 3 days as where most pheasants lay every 2 days,and then this species likes to eat their eggs.If you do hatch any after brooding them for 6 weeks,you can't just put them outside like other species.You need to keep them in a screened pen so mosquitoes can't get to them as they are suseptible to west nile.Plus they love to dig so you have prepare your pen properly so they can't dig their way out.Which should be for all species.The grains are good for them but they and all pheasants should get fruits and veggies,seeds,peanuts(unsalted only)and any other treat you can think of.Their numbers are good but as all species they could be better then what they are.

In N.H.,Tony.

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They are not as easy as they say they are to raise.They lay every 3 days as where most pheasants lay every 2 days,and then this species likes to eat their eggs.If you do hatch any after brooding them for 6 weeks,you can't just put them outside like other species.You need to keep them in a screened pen so mosquitoes can't get to them as they are suseptible to west nile.Plus they love to dig so you have prepare your pen properly so they can't dig their way out.Which should be for all species.The grains are good for them but they and all pheasants should get fruits and veggies,seeds,peanuts(unsalted only)and any other treat you can think of.Their numbers are good but as all species they could be better then what they are.

In N.H.,Tony.

 

Well said.  I was going to say they are not easy to raise according to what I have heard, but was waiting for someone with actual experience to say it.  I will probably pass on the offer for your male.  However, you did mention that if one GPP chick was a male you could sell a pair... The more I learn about impeyans the less I want them.  They are just so delicate and it seems like lots have died this year.  I guess I should be happy with my tragopans!
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I only hatched 1 grey peacock chick and it died last week.It was doing good to and then dead,you never know.Don't let the impeyans go,if you can get a pair I suggest you you get them.After they hit adult age all the worries are behind you,but the 1 big thing is to raise them chicks in a screen pen.I have the bug that I want every specie of pheasant I see,but I don't have the funds or the space for them all.I am looking for a pair of cheers next.Do you know of anyone that has a pair for sale?Your in N.Y.,there are many pheasant peeps there.Are yo an APWS member?If not you should join.

In N.H.,Tony.

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Sorry ya lost your chick Tony. Im going to do another go round with them. They are my favorite pheasant . I was bummed when I lost my only adult pair to west nile coupla years ago

. Ill go whole hog and screen their pen this time. Maybe Im wrong but I sure hope these build up some kind of immunity to it over time uch as some other birds have.


Edited by destinduck - 9/22/13 at 4:41pm
Quack Addict.  About 60 exotic and migratory waterfowl here but love to hunt ducks as well. Ironic huh? Also raise some ornamental pheasants and some peafowl as well. And a very understanding wife of over 25 years!                                                                                                                           
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Quack Addict.  About 60 exotic and migratory waterfowl here but love to hunt ducks as well. Ironic huh? Also raise some ornamental pheasants and some peafowl as well. And a very understanding wife of over 25 years!                                                                                                                           
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