Great Depression of 2016

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IMHO the Great Depression has already started
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http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-co...-the-worst-in-region-3-why-video-2698874.html I've found several of these inside reports like this one,, something BIG is coming when our own Govt is stockpiling HUGE amounts of MRE's and ammunition to control the unruly crowds they are anticipating. If anyone watched Doomsday Preppers first episode last week, they always have so called "experts" shoot down the theories of the prepper that is being showcased. The first Prepper was preparing for an economic collapse, and for the first time ,none of the "experts" shot his reasoning down.
My biggest concern is if this does happen(which I'm sure it will) is the hoards of people in Chicago trying to get out of the city to find a place where they can sustain themselves and I'm sure if we have a big garden,chickens,,maybe a few other animals for food we are raising if these people are desperate and hungry enough they will do whatever is necessary to help themselves.
We have a railroad track 1/4 mile from our homestead and my grandfather told me during the Great Depression he used to see "hobos" riding the trains heading south, and many times they were locked up because once they decided to exit the train,they stole and robbed farmers and their families for food and money.
 
There's no shortage of alarmists out there today, but the fact that Napolitano said on August 27 of this year that cyber attacks will likely cause a nationwide grid failure, and I quote her verbatim, one can only question why Chinese military will be on American soil in Hawaii November 12-14, a known antagonist of the U.S. The corruption is so rampant, I don't put anything past DC to create more reliance upon government. They want control. Some of us still want independence.

“That is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyber attacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.” (New York Times, Aug. 16, 2013)

Perhaps they'll screw it up themselves and make it look like a "mistake". Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Obamacare? The likelihood of them screwing this up, or cooperating with the criminals running China, isn't an impossibility from what I've seen. It isn't paranoid to be prepared for your own survival, and taking care of family and friends.
 
Cannot anyone else here see the "Grand Agenda" of this presidents administration? NSA has the power to spy on everyone of us by any means possible. They know every person within our borders who uses a phone of internet,,care to place bets on this one? Thru the internet,our cell phones,land line phones,ect.And all under the "ruse" of terrorism? Forced healthcare and the lies forthcoming that this president knew ahead of time. The current free cellphones the govt. is making available to those who are eligible for some sorts of aid.
His term ends in 2016,,but in a state of emergency,he can stay in office indefinetly. There is now only two classes of citizens,the rich and the poor.The Govt is making this possible by dividing the nation. We as individuals are being "tuned" by what tidbits of information the govt wants us to hear and how they want us to react.
 
Then perhaps it's best to not give them any more ammunition against you. Since technically the most of the population can be considered a terrorist under the Patriot Act and subject to its criminal punishments, even 'law abiding citizens'. but you didn't hear that from me. I know nothing
 
One way to stop NSA from internet spying is thru encryptions and using selected proxy servers from all over the world. One of the best VPM Proxy severs is called "Hide my *ss" Silk Road was an illicit website that operated for years and noone could locate the servers to shut it down until the actual owner of the website got careless once and they then found the servers actually hidden within the walls of his own home,after years of searching. Funny thing but I bet some of the people who design,then make locating websites such as this impossible( the FBI had been looking for years to shut Silk Road down),could have easily built the Obama Care website for a lot less money,,and make is quite secure.Everyday thru the news the Obama "Regime" is slowly programming each of us. When our country cannot pay it's debts,things will begin to crumble at an alarming rate. And if the Govt has the ability to get into every citizens checking account,as to deduct fees for Obama Care,wonder what they can deduct if my account shows "zero" balance? I'm thinking a hidden home safe is on the x-mas list here.
It has been said we all need to have necessary cash and food stores for no less than 8 months time. I realize not many people now are alive that went thru the Great Depression back in the '30's. That misfortune was caused by banks lending huge amounts of money for people investing in the stock market. Lending laws have changed as well as Wall Street insider trading laws,the FDIC was brought about to "insure" everyones money and to build trust in the banking system again.Buts lets all face it,,we are guided to believe that paper money is backed by our faith in our Govt. Being trillions of dollars in debt,and that number increasing yearly,FDIC maybe able to back up our paper currency,but at what value? 10 cents on the dollar?
Question for anyone following this thread,,,if the USA goes in the tank again,in a much larger scale than before,how many here have the ability to self sustain their families without relying on store bought items? We must remember we probably won't be able to pay for electricity,will lose any posessions that the banks would have title to,including our automobiles and homes and property.But in the event not all of us "owe" anyone or any bank and the property was indeed yours no matter what happened,can you sustain enough food,grow enough livestock,grow enough feed for the livestock,and get by without all the conveniences we have today? Has anyone every figured how much food a family of 4 consumes daily,weekly,monthly? And heating in the winter in colder climates. If there is no value in money,what will the masses do for fuel oil,propane,natural gas for heating? Maybe wood stoves will be a huge comeback?
There is a huge "correction" coming in the agricultural community.Farmland that once was $2500 an acre just 3-4 years ago,is now selling for $10-$12,000 per acre. We witnessed this same inflation back in the 1970's when the land scare drive prices from $800 an acre to over $3000 per acre,here in prime farming ground in Illinois. Many buyers eventually lost those high priced farms.But it's easy proof to see that at todays cash price of $4.50 per bushel of corn,even at 200 bushels per acre,land priced at over $10,000 per acre cannot pay for itself.By the time you add imput costs such as seed,fertilizer,herbicide,and machinery costs per acre,everyones getting their share of the pie,before the landowner-farmer.
 
Funny, our homes and car and farm insurance is less than health insurance on the premimums, the monthly payments and so forth. Yeah, we "break" down more than our cars or a home with dry rot and termite eaten.

Sounds like "survival for the fittest".
THe more people that payinto the system, the less expensive it will be. I live in Mass and honestly I have had insurance since I was 25. On minimum wage it ate a chunk of my income. Fast forward many decades, and I am glad that we had insurance when I have had catastrophic issues that would have not been possible to fix without insurance. ANd 2 healthy children that will grow up healthy to be good working people. ( I hope.)

Quote: THe pregnancy clause covers spouses. Ileft work to become a stay at home mom, and thru my DH's insurance I was covered.

Insurance is not about the indiviual, it is about the population.

Food for thought. In my state people got emergency health care at the expense of the state when they did not have health insurance. Why is that fair? DH pays for our health insurance AND pays for the person who doesn't. Hospitals here don't turn away people who are in need of care but cannot pay in an emergency. ANd this was BEFORE universal health care in Massachusetts.

Skip the insurance and pay the fine. Let the stupid law collapse under it's own weight.
I think it is unfortunate that the benefits of everyone paying to the health caresystem cannot see the long term value. I understand people are upset by it; Our GOvoner said it took 2 years to get the website working well here at the start up. IMO we should give it a chance. AND . . . . work to get ourselves a whole lot healthier and not need a lot of the medical care that sucks up money unnecessarily.



For example----- eating quality vegetables every day like arugala, alfalfa sprouts and onions and mushrooms, etc are cancer fighting nutreint dense foods.

That type 2 diabetes is preventable and curable by eating a proper diet that severly limits sugars, refined carb foods and junk food. How many of you are aware that the same Standard AMerican diet also causes: strokes, heart attackes, gout, RA, aarthroschlerosis, and many more degenerative diseases?

Toothe decay is far less on a meat and veg diet than thediet of foods we love to eat.

As I read thru this thread, I read a lot of bitching, but no suggestions on what each of us can do to change the situation to help ourselves and our family members.

Get learning how to grow food and teach your family and neighbors. Learn to can and freeze foods. ( My lanb is still edible 10 yrs in the freezer-- tossed some for freezer burn tothe chooks.) Look at how you will feed your animals-- that is expensive. Consider raising meat rabbits, or ducks as well as chickens. But only raise what you can afford to feed. Add more vegies to your diet and eat 2 salads every day when the garden is prosperous.

A lot of land is not necessary to accomplish these goals. Lots of gardening in small space info on line.

Keep healthy: exercise regularly like walking for 30-60 minutes everyday. REv up the body to better utilize the foods we feed it. We were not meant to be sedintary.

THere are countries around the world that are in worse condition that we are. Oddly the world economy runs off the american dollar. That is a huge resposiblity on the shoulders of a few men in our governemnt.

INvest in yourself: education, health, friendships. Keep a good guard dog. FOrget the cats, get a chicken to eat the mice. lol

Your discussion is very thought pervoking. THe US cannot stay as the world leader forever-- no country has ever done that. Many countries have passed their heyday and are still wonderful places to live.

WE need to quit the war in Afghanistan---- these last 10+ years ( so many years that I canot remember the beginning date anymore) have eaten a huge amount of our money. I'm betting that money would have covered a good percentage of our debts.

We need jobs here in this country to put all people to work. Several businesses have chosen to do just that. As the wages rise in CHina, keeping the manufacturin here is often a better choice for a company. More of the manufacturing needds to come here. I do not support giving out free money , better to have low paying jobs and the dignity of a good days work. THis has disappeared. Stop the handouts and see how many are then willing to work. We cannot keep going the way we are now. People need to give back to the community for every dollar they get. ANd get tubes tied for both men and women once they have 2 kids and are on assistance. When they are off assitance and are making a good wage/income, then they can pay to have a reversal.

So while there is a bit of ranting on these 4+ pages, do consider how you can make yourr comminuty a better community. NOt just complain, but change.
 
Cryptography is "computer generated" in two catagories,,Symmetric key or public key,In Symmetric key encryption,both the sender and the reciever both must have the same "key" to decipher the message,,much like the Germans used in WW2.Commonly known as the Enigma code.The DES(Data Encryption Standard) uses a 56bit key and had 70 quadrillion possible key combinations,(70,000,000,000,000,000),the newer Advanced Encryption System(AES) works on 256bit keys offering 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 key combinations for just a 128bit key.Much to your LOL Bear Foot Farm,computers alone writes the diffrent forms of encryptions simply because it takes humans too long to decipher them,if they can be deciphered at all in a lifetime.Please do some research before writing an "assumption" that is indeed,not correct.
More predictions of the upcoming several years http://steveaustinlex.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/predictions-for-the-next-10-years/
 
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