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I was chuckling about the dogs this afternoon when I left to go buy some hay...it was 13* with a windchill factor of 6* and they were stretched out on the ground in the sun like it was 70, soaking up the rays while the chickens were out foraging in the leaves around them.   Later where we picked up hay it was around 18* and a few inside livin' pitbulls came out to join their owner at the hay barn.... they were shivering all the while and couldn't wait to get back in the house. 

 
Matthew 10:32-33 - Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJdx9BtTob4

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Matthew 10:32-33 - Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 

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I've been giving the birds soaked kitten kibble every couple days, as an animal protein supplement (they are molting/coming back from molting) - they love it and are doing well on it, growing nice glossy feathers back. Two questions for folks who use this (@Kev , I know you do):

 

1) Do you do this all the time (at least in your breeders)?

 

2) Do you do this with baby chicks? (Just thinking ahead for when I hatch or get those S&G chicks)

 

- Ant Farm

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I've been giving the birds soaked kitten kibble every couple days, as an animal protein supplement (they are molting/coming back from molting) - they love it and are doing well on it, growing nice glossy feathers back. Two questions for folks who use this (@Kev , I know you do):

 

1) Do you do this all the time (at least in your breeders)?

 

2) Do you do this with baby chicks? (Just thinking ahead for when I hatch or get those S&G chicks)

 

- Ant Farm

 

Fed cat food for years as a treat whenever I felt like it- sometimes it was several times a week, sometimes skipped it for a whole week. This is when animal protein was still present in feed.

 

Deliberately as animal protein source.. I'm still figuring it out like you are.    For a while I was doing the soaked feed with egg mixed in, sometimes cat food and boss peppered in.   When it became too cold(for me that is lol) I stopped that... I store the feed in trash cans so now what I do is pour in several cupfuls of both cat food and boss and mix it around until it looks like they were "peppered" onto their layer pellets. Simply scoop out and pour their daily rations from this.   It's a very rough measure as I have no idea what is enough or too much.  All I can really say is the birds that got cat food quite regularly(particular favorites got a lot- both the amount, until they were full or got it as a treat far more often than others) thrived for years/didnt show any obvious ill effects.

 

I would say soaking the cat food for chicks would be perfectly fine.   What I did this year for the chicks was the soaked feed with fresh eggs broken right over it and stirred in.  Didn't have the time nor wanted to wait long enough for the cat food to soak...


Edited by Kev - 12/16/16 at 4:38pm
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Still need the address for our friend here who wanted those Egyption onion starts. PM me so I can send some in the mail.

LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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Originally Posted by Fire Ant Farm View Post
 

I've been giving the birds soaked kitten kibble every couple days, as an animal protein supplement (they are molting/coming back from molting) - they love it and are doing well on it, growing nice glossy feathers back. Two questions for folks who use this (@Kev , I know you do):

 

1) Do you do this all the time (at least in your breeders)?

 

2) Do you do this with baby chicks? (Just thinking ahead for when I hatch or get those S&G chicks)

 

- Ant Farm

 

Fed cat food for years as a treat whenever I felt like it- sometimes it was several times a week, sometimes skipped it for a whole week. This is when animal protein was still present in feed.

 

Deliberately as animal protein source.. I'm still figuring it out like you are.    For a while I was doing the soaked feed with egg mixed in, sometimes cat food and boss peppered in.   When it became too cold(for me that is lol) I stopped that... I store the feed in trash cans so now what I do is pour in several cupfuls of both cat food and boss and mix it around until it looks like they were "peppered" onto their layer pellets. Simply scoop out and pour their daily rations from this.   It's a very rough measure as I have no idea what is enough or too much.  All I can really say is the birds that got cat food quite regularly(particular favorites got a lot- both the amount, until they were full or got it as a treat far more often than others) thrived for years/didnt show any obvious ill effects.

 

I would say soaking the cat food for chicks would be perfectly fine.   What I did this year for the chicks was the soaked feed with fresh eggs broken right over it and stirred in.  Didn't have the time nor wanted to wait long enough for the cat food to soak...


Every meal for chicks? Proportions? Just trying to get a feel for it - don't want to "displace" too much in the way of the feed that has other balanced stuff in it...

 

(Now I need to find a good kitten food that isn't too expensive...)

 

- Ant Farm 

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Have used kitty food in the past.
We have soooooo many starlings stealing feed from feeders in the pens that putting anything else out is not cost effective. Sure wish they would hurry up and migrate!
I put out just enough feed for the chickens in the morning and then again in the evening right after the starlings start to roost and the chickens come in for the night.
Frigid drop in temperatures tonight means it will be super cold in the morning....

LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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a double post.
Edited by NanaKat - 12/16/16 at 5:03pm

LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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LF: Columbian Wyandotte, Cochins; B: OEGB, Rosecomb, d'Anvers, Delaware

"Speak kind words; hear kind echos."  "When you get to your wit's end, you'll find God lives there."  

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret." 

Fabric Temptress - http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3104712#p3104712
 

 

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Originally Posted by Fire Ant Farm View Post
 

I've been giving the birds soaked kitten kibble every couple days, as an animal protein supplement (they are molting/coming back from molting) - they love it and are doing well on it, growing nice glossy feathers back. Two questions for folks who use this (@Kev , I know you do):

 

1) Do you do this all the time (at least in your breeders)?

 

2) Do you do this with baby chicks? (Just thinking ahead for when I hatch or get those S&G chicks)

 

- Ant Farm

 

Fed cat food for years as a treat whenever I felt like it- sometimes it was several times a week, sometimes skipped it for a whole week. This is when animal protein was still present in feed.

 

Deliberately as animal protein source.. I'm still figuring it out like you are.    For a while I was doing the soaked feed with egg mixed in, sometimes cat food and boss peppered in.   When it became too cold(for me that is lol) I stopped that... I store the feed in trash cans so now what I do is pour in several cupfuls of both cat food and boss and mix it around until it looks like they were "peppered" onto their layer pellets. Simply scoop out and pour their daily rations from this.   It's a very rough measure as I have no idea what is enough or too much.  All I can really say is the birds that got cat food quite regularly(particular favorites got a lot- both the amount, until they were full or got it as a treat far more often than others) thrived for years/didn't show any obvious ill effects.

 

I would say soaking the cat food for chicks would be perfectly fine.   What I did this year for the chicks was the soaked feed with fresh eggs broken right over it and stirred in.  Didn't have the time nor wanted to wait long enough for the cat food to soak...


Every meal for chicks? Proportions? Just trying to get a feel for it - don't want to "displace" too much in the way of the feed that has other balanced stuff in it...

 

(Now I need to find a good kitten food that isn't too expensive...)

 

- Ant Farm 


 I get the cat food from Costco- 17 per bag and Sam's- I think, 12 per bag. They are very expensive elsewhere, that;s for sure...   

 

Rough average I'd say about 4 cups of chick starter mash, wet this throughoutly- either like oatmeal you can just about shape with hands or just barely wet enough you cannot do that.   Break one or two eggs over this and stir, feed this right away.  I use cheap doggy pans from the dollar store,  but the problem is...  when they see me coming with those pans they become VERY excited and makes walking into their pen to set them down impossible.  some will be so excited they fly up onto you before it is set down.   This extreme excitement is why it should be wet enough to go down easily and avoid choking. simply breaking eggs over the dry mash would work fine but needs more eggs to wet it enough, the water is a shortcut for this issue.

 

I was doing this either every other day with some stretches of several days in a row. I think it would be fine if it was three times a week or less, just had to deal with severe feather pickers in the batches this year(the EE chicks).

 

by the way this is not sole feed for chicks- they have dry feed available all the time.

 

If the chicks show no signs of feather picking I'd say it is not absolutely necessary.  My main impetus really were those horrible EE chicks.   After those were gone, the egg-feed continued mainly to help them recover and regrow feathers but continued to do it just because, after they recovered(and am now of the opinion they do need animal protein...)


Edited by Kev - 12/16/16 at 5:25pm
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I've been giving the birds soaked kitten kibble every couple days, as an animal protein supplement (they are molting/coming back from molting) - they love it and are doing well on it, growing nice glossy feathers back. Two questions for folks who use this (@Kev , I know you do):

 

1) Do you do this all the time (at least in your breeders)?

 

2) Do you do this with baby chicks? (Just thinking ahead for when I hatch or get those S&G chicks)

 

- Ant Farm

 

Fed cat food for years as a treat whenever I felt like it- sometimes it was several times a week, sometimes skipped it for a whole week. This is when animal protein was still present in feed.

 

Deliberately as animal protein source.. I'm still figuring it out like you are.    For a while I was doing the soaked feed with egg mixed in, sometimes cat food and boss peppered in.   When it became too cold(for me that is lol) I stopped that... I store the feed in trash cans so now what I do is pour in several cupfuls of both cat food and boss and mix it around until it looks like they were "peppered" onto their layer pellets. Simply scoop out and pour their daily rations from this.   It's a very rough measure as I have no idea what is enough or too much.  All I can really say is the birds that got cat food quite regularly(particular favorites got a lot- both the amount, until they were full or got it as a treat far more often than others) thrived for years/didn't show any obvious ill effects.

 

I would say soaking the cat food for chicks would be perfectly fine.   What I did this year for the chicks was the soaked feed with fresh eggs broken right over it and stirred in.  Didn't have the time nor wanted to wait long enough for the cat food to soak...


Every meal for chicks? Proportions? Just trying to get a feel for it - don't want to "displace" too much in the way of the feed that has other balanced stuff in it...

 

(Now I need to find a good kitten food that isn't too expensive...)

 

- Ant Farm 


 I get the cat food from Costco- 17 per bag and Sam's- I think, 12 per bag. They are very expensive elsewhere, that;s for sure...   

 

Rough average I'd say about 4 cups of chick starter mash, wet this throughoutly- either like oatmeal you can just about shape with hands or just barely wet enough you cannot do that.   Break one or two eggs over this and stir, feed this right away.  I use cheap doggy pans from the dollar store,  but the problem is...  when they see me coming with those pans they become VERY excited and makes walking into their pen to set them down impossible.  some will be so excited they fly up onto you before it is set down.   This extreme excitement is why it should be wet enough to go down easily and avoid choking. simply breaking eggs over the dry mash would work fine but needs more eggs to wet it enough, the water is a shortcut for this issue.

 

I was doing this either every other day with some stretches of several days in a row. I think it would be fine if it was three times a week or less, just had to deal with severe feather pickers in the batches this year(the EE chicks).

 

by the way this is not sole feed for chicks- they have dry feed available all the time.

 

If the chicks show no signs of feather picking I'd say it is not absolutely necessary.  My main impetus really were those horrible EE chicks.   After those were gone, the egg-feed continued mainly to help them recover and regrow feathers but continued to do it just because, after they recovered(and am now of the opinion they do need animal protein...)


Thanks - this is VERY helpful! I think I may try this intermittently with the new chicks (mine and the S&G strain NNs). The growth curves may be affected by comparison, but that's ok. :D

 

- Ant Farm 

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Thanks - this is VERY helpful! I think I may try this intermittently with the new chicks (mine and the S&G strain NNs). The growth curves may be affected by comparison, but that's ok. :D

 

- Ant Farm 

 

After reading through your discussion, I'm thinking of trying it too. Very interesting....:caf

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