It never ceases to amaze me at the talents of the folks on this thread . We got folks that can look at a photo of an egg and tell if its fertile, or sex a chicken ,by photo ,some draw, some hatch with just the very bare necessities, and some know more about doctoring on chickens than my vet. Just more proof to me that nothing happens by chance our steps are guided.My wife Sue found out she had cancer 4 days after we buried her mommy ,after a long battle with cancer. and she drove like a maniac , I found out much later she figured she was gonna die anyway so she drove like she had nothing to live for. And then she was pregnant with Lauren so she refused treatment until the baby was born . Reminds me if the joke about grandpa dying peaceful in his sleep ,not kicking and screaming like the passengers in his car.