Verm-X success?

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I'm suspecting an infestation of gapeworms in one of my hen. Shes's a 2 years old hen and is frequently yawning and shaking its head. When I searched the internet I found many good reviews about flubenvet and Verm-X. I live in the U.S so I don't think I can get my hands on flubenvet.
Does anyone have any success with Verm-X (liquid or pellet?)? And what kind of worms will it kill? Any effect on gapeworms?
 
Hello mimi2012
I first came accross Verm-X in Poultry World magazine, Terry Beebe the editor was recommending it. I have friends in England who also love it. I was interested in it because one of my friends is on an organic farm so they can't use chemicals and they have had great results. What I like the most is that there is no egg withdrawl period, my kids collect the eggs for (English) breakfast all the time. As far as I am aware Verm-X will eliminate all worms and parasites found in the gut and as it was explained to me when I was asking the same sort of question.

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First, Verm-X claims to kill worms, but it is composed of foods/herbs etc, such as garlic, seaweed, and capsaicin. I have never seen a scientific study to show that anything other than a chemical wormer will kill intestinal worms, in spite of expressing interest in same here. These things might help the chicken express some of the worms, but in the case of gapeworm, the worms would be fatal unless killed, as I understand it. Below is a link to a thread with excellent information on gapeworm. You will see that actually it is not likely that that is what your chickens have. Swab dep in their mouth'throat with a tip and see if any very thin, red, inch long worms come back. This is how you find dapeworm.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/602699/worming-chickens/0_20#post_7931381

Here is another thread about worms and the efficacy of natural remedies:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...r-crd-parasites-are-rampant/0_20#post_7474233
 
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I have an infestation of gape in my flock and when my favorite peacock became sick I have increased my research to find a proper cure for the problem. I tried the Verm-x liquid and pellets. It has not helped my peacock but I believe that it has helped my chickens. At least I have stopped hearing the gurgling at night in my flock. I used the liquid for 1 week and the pellets too. With my peacock I have been administering it am/pm straight with a syringe orally. He has not shown any sign of improvement.

I think the Verm-x is a good preventative and immune booster. I like the product but in my case, with a bad infestation and dying birds, I will resort of Valbazon or the other stronger wormers - levimisole which I am administering tonight to the gang. Wish me luck.

The Verm-x guy has been very helpful, btw, and is super knowledgable. he said he also had success with gapes using straight ACV and his Verm-x product. I hope this helps someone. As I recall their site claims that the product improves immune systems and helps a chicken to fight off the infestations naturally. I didn't see any claims about the product killing the worms.
 
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rfmudflap said:
I have an infestation of gape in my flock and when my favorite peacock became sick I have increased my research to find a proper cure for the problem. I tried the Verm-x liquid and pellets. It has not helped my peacock but I believe that it has helped my chickens. At least I have stopped hearing the gurgling at night in my flock. I used the liquid for 1 week and the pellets too. With my peacock I have been administering it am/pm straight with a syringe orally. He has not shown any sign of improvement.

I think the Verm-x is a good preventative and immune booster. I like the product but in my case, with a bad infestation and dying birds, I will resort of Valbazon or the other stronger wormers - levimisole which I am administering tonight to the gang. Wish me luck.

The Verm-x guy has been very helpful, btw, and is super knowledgable. he said he also had success with gapes using straight ACV and his Verm-x product. I hope this helps someone. As I recall their site claims that the product improves immune systems and helps a chicken to fight off the infestations naturally. I didn't see any claims about the product killing the worms.
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The VermX guy is helpful as a salesman to lighten your wallet or purse. VermX is useless as a preventative and treatment for worms.
Gapeworm are rare in chickens. You most likely have some type of a respiratory disease as evidenced by "gurgling" in your flock.
If you're going to worm your birds, use valbazen. It is one of the safest wormers on the market, more safe than levamisol. After worming, consider treating your birds with tylan 50 injectable for a respiratory disease.
http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2012/01/ve...eal-evidence-to-show-it-is-safe-or-effective/
 
Wow you are free with your opinions..... the gapeworm was diagnosed by my vet and I saw the small red worms with my own eyes. Sorry to disappoint you. And I believe that proper immune health in my flock will contribute to their good health. Proper immune health can be achieved using natural herbs and plants like garlic. I have witnessed this philosophy in all of my livestock and pets. Thank you
 
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Wow you are free with your opinions..... the gapeworm was diagnosed by my vet and I saw the small red worms with my own eyes. Sorry to disappoint you. And I believe that proper immune health in my flock will contribute to their good health. Proper immune health can be achieved using natural herbs and plants like garlic. I have witnessed this philosophy in all of my livestock and pets. Thank you
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If this were true, your vet would've told you what to do and what wormer to use and would've known VermX is useless. If he didn't give you instructions, better seek another vet.
 
OK, thanks Dawg. I have read that elsewhere, that VermX is ok as a routine preventative, but if you have a serious problem you do need something stronger. I will try the Valbazen, after I use up the Levamisole.

I have heard this too that Gapeworms are rare in chickens, but if it was impossible then they wouldn't sell dewormers to treat it.

Worms are extremely hard to get rid of. We are still battling Capillary worms in our flock. We have another hen sick and I think she has them, and I think one of our peas and another hen have them, judging by them opening their beak like they are yawning. We dewormed the flock again yesterday but Capillary worms are hard to get rid of as they imbed themselves in the GIT and Crop.
They can cause symptoms of gaping and rattly breathing, fyi.
 

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