TSC Chicks sneezing?

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I bought 6 TSC pullets, I brought them home and right away I notice they start sneezing so I quarantine them upstairs. Kind of a flemy sneeze. Then two days later my house rooster starts coughing and sneezing too!


Its been a week and still the same, none act lethargic, just full of snot. None of my flock outside have any symptoms.


I have duramaycin (sp?) in their water, I can't get medicated starter here anymore, IDK why they don't keep it in stock now or corid!
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I'll be going out of town and plan to get some medicated starter some place that still carries it.


Anyone else know what this could be or have this too?
 
RussianChickens said:
I bought 6 TSC pullets, I brought them home and right away I notice they start sneezing so I quarantine them upstairs. Kind of a flemy sneeze. Then two days later my house rooster starts coughing and sneezing too!


Its been a week and still the same, none act lethargic, just full of snot. None of my flock outside have any symptoms.


I have duramaycin (sp?) in their water, I can't get medicated starter here anymore, IDK why they don't keep it in stock now or corid!
rant.gif
I'll be going out of town and plan to get some medicated starter some place that still carries it.


Anyone else know what this could be or have this too?
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The birds from TSC most likely have some type of respiratory disease that has been transmitted to your house rooster causing him to get sick as well. The newbies may have appeared healthy at TSC but once introduced into their new and unfamiliar surroundings, and the stress from the move, they relapsed with the symptoms of a respiratory disease that you're observing. Antibiotics such as duramycin will treat but not cure respiratory diseases. However if it's a virus, antibiotics wont treat it, only secondary bacterial infections can be treated. Corid and medicated starter feed are ineffective against respiratory diseases. Most of these of diseases can be transmitted on clothing, your shoes, hands etc...remember biosecurity. Prevent and protect your outside flock from getting infected. You'll most likely have to change clothes, shoes, and wash hands thoroughly before attending to your outside flock. Your other option is to cull your indoor birds and disinfect their inside habitat.
 
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dawg53 said:
The birds from TSC most likely have some type of respiratory disease that has been transmitted to your house rooster causing him to get sick as well. The newbies may have appeared healthy at TSC but once introduced into their new and unfamiliar surroundings, and the stress from the move, they relapsed with the symptoms of a respiratory disease that you're observing. Antibiotics such as duramycin will treat but not cure respiratory diseases. However if it's a virus, antibiotics wont treat it, only secondary bacterial infections can be treated. Corid and medicated starter feed are ineffective against respiratory diseases. Most of these of diseases can be transmitted on clothing, your shoes, hands etc...remember biosecurity. Prevent and protect your outside flock from getting infected. You'll most likely have to change clothes, shoes, and wash hands thoroughly before attending to your outside flock. Your other option is to cull your indoor birds and disinfect their inside habitat.
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They seam to be getting better this evening, and so does the roo. It looks much like a common human cold the way the chicks behave and symptoms have been presenting. It could well be a virus. The sneezing is less flemy tonight and less frequent. George is also not coughing/sneezing much either.

It doesn't seam to be anything serious so I would be quite hesitant to cull as I believe it is good to keep birds with immunity and second we all love George. I'm quite sure than within this week other members of my household have handled both indoor and outdoor birds already so that ship may have sailed, Its cold here though so I wear different shoes and cloths inside and out and I've always had a habit of washing hands between flocks. I'll have to ask the others but I bet they were covered and gloved as well for outdoor birds. None of them have any issues yet. It will be quite a while before George or the chicks can move outside so I suppose time will tell if this is chronic or a virus.



Meanwhile is there anything in particular that I should watch for to determine if this is a virus vs a chronic disease?


Last fall I had a batch of chicks of which 3 presented with a respiratory problem and deteriorated quickly and died within 36 hours, the other 8 birds remained fine all along and no other birds picked it up either. All other batches were fine as well.

My bet is if this came from the TSC chicks the whole hatchery has it and it is likely very common or will be this year. The only other possibility I can think of is it came on the wind or via wild bird. George was outside just a day before the chicks came home so I suppose it is possible, but I don't know that it would have transferred and set in that fast. ?
 
Dawns Funy Farm said:
what are you using for the chicks bedding? sometimes the bedding can cause the chicks to sneeze
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I am using a sawdust. Its pine. Though it is a tad dusty that's for sure. George has it in his pen too. It seams to be all but completely gone tonight. I'm still watching. None act bad at all.

Chicken virus??



Out of all the known diseases this seams nothing like them. It does not seam nearly as severe as the ones I have found names for. The only evidence was sneezing and a flemy sound occasionally. The chicks could be just a tad thin but this could be because they are growing so fast. None have been looking deathly i'll. Perhaps a bit sleepy at times but I have seen them play as well. George was a little horas for a few days but was back to crowing like a nut all day again today.
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Out door birds are still fabulous.
 
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FYI: There are many types of respiratory diseases that birds can get. They vary by strain from mild to severe symptoms. It's possible your sick birds may have a mild strain of some type of respiratory disease. To say it's not serious and they will build immunity against the whatever disease it is...it's not gonna happen...I can assure you they will be carriers for life and will pass the disease to newly acquired birds.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
 
dawg53 said:
FYI: There are many types of respiratory diseases that birds can get. They vary by strain from mild to severe symptoms. It's possible your sick birds may have a mild strain of some type of respiratory disease. To say it's not serious and they will build immunity against the whatever disease it is...it's not gonna happen...I can assure you they will be carriers for life and will pass the disease to newly acquired birds.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
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I think that you cannot really understand this until you have lived thru it. But after you live thru it your life will never be the same.
 
dawg53 said:
FYI: There are many types of respiratory diseases that birds can get. They vary by strain from mild to severe symptoms. It's possible your sick birds may have a mild strain of some type of respiratory disease. To say it's not serious and they will build immunity against the whatever disease it is...it's not gonna happen...I can assure you they will be carriers for life and will pass the disease to newly acquired birds.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
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That may be but it seems to be quite recoverable and no longer affecting the birds. Thus I see no necessity to cull these birds unless symptoms persist or reappear. There are a lot of mild diseases among the animal kingdom that we do not kill all our animals for. If I were to kill all my healthy birds because they may have been exposed I may be killing animals that are resistant to this particular strain or never had it to start. If a mear chick can recover without a problem what's to say large healthy birds wouldn't either.

To me it would be stupid to cull unless this sickness proves to be deadly or severe. Especially since all my neighbors have the same batches of TSC chicks. Any new birds I got would pick it up from them in the future anyway, you can't just pick up and move your whole farm every time a bird sneezes. And you said yourself it could be a virus. You can't tell me how I can tell the difference between the two so why would I want to kill what very well could be healthy birds?

If it came from the chicks the whole hatchery is affected which means this strain is going to become common in the area. I see it as best to expose birds to it in this particular case. As evolution has proven, animals will eventually build resistance to common ailments. If the chicks were becoming deathly ill I would cull. I'm still waiting to see how they do. No sign on outdoor birds yet. Chicks are back to chirping up a storm again and George is back to his incessant crowing.

This is one instance where I believe exposing birds to be a good thing. If this is infact a mild disease that will be carried for life. If things take a turn I will certainly reevaluate the situation.
 
RussianChickens said:
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Evolution has proven that diseases mutate, often into a more deadly strain. You hear about it in the news, an example is the flu.
It's your choice whether you want to treat your birds or not and perputuate whatever disease they may have. If you knew what damage respiratory diseases did internally, you'd cull to end their suffering.
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