Ok, shes out. I popped some shell off, exposed membrane and put her back, no sign of veins. after about 15 minutes or so I pulled her back out, pulled the top half from the bottom Hal about a half an inch and then put her back. Took her another five minutes to push out. She's still curled up in the shell a little but has more room, can do the rest herself and now she's dozing. She is so cute!