Originally Posted by big medicine
Greetings and thank you, that has always been my contention, along with most of the poultry world, (outside of possibly some British Brahma hobbyists), that pyle is a black breasted red with dominant white added.
I have given thought to going back and bringing that Classroom at the Coop thread up to date on the progress of the various projects. Maybe some day if I break my leg, or somehow get laid up for a considerable period of time.
It's been years for me, as well! I haven't visited because I lost my login name and it was boring and life got busy, etc. But I really learned deeply and forever--were some of those wicked cool genetics project threads. I'm not sure how much of it is outdated, but I practically have Poultry Genetics for the Non-professional, memorized! It was really fun creating some of those "projects"...I still have 10 year old Araucanas and some cool crosses here.
When I look at a bird, most of the time I know the pattern/colour it is showing, and often what the genetics are behind it. Based on Old English game birds, I usually use the words Black Breasted Red, Brown-red, Gold and Silver Duckwing, Red Pyle, etc. language, because I showed OEs, but I also understand that Brown-red and Black Copper (as in Marans) is exactly the same thing. Some people have no idea. I know because I had the Coop, and many years of a genetically diverse flock and time, so I 'made" every **** colour I wanted--and some oddballs, too.
I was cruising the Welsummer thread here, and it seemed like everyone thinks all e+ wild-type BB Red "chipmunk" chicks are "Welsummers"....even the ones that clearly are not.