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PITHING....The Real Story

post #1 of 19
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I keep seeing these posts on pithing as a means of dispatching/killing a chicken.

Pithing was never intended for this purpose. In reality pithing is a means of rendering a specimen immobile for disection/study purposes.
We used it in biology class with frogs & kittens. The objective is to have a brain dead but still breathing/heart beating subject that can be cut open without muscle reflex.

If done correctly, pithing will scramble the brain & sever the spinal cord. What you end up with is a animal that is very much alive, but unable to feel pain, or move.

If your chicken actually dies from PITHING, you are doing it WRONG


From a BIOLOGY book....

What is pithing?

Pithing is a means of destroying an animal's central nervous system in order to study various physiological processes. Frogs and turtles are two species commonly used in pithing labs, and the procedure is commonly performed in undergraduate-level classes. If conducted properly, pithing severs the spinal cord of the live animal and destroys the brain by inserting a needle into the back of the skull and moving the needle around in order to "scramble" brain tissue; the needle is then inserted into the vertebral canal in order to destroy reflexes. The animal continues to function physiologically for hours following the pithing procedure. The organization is opposed to pithing of animals in the classroom and further believes that the overwhelming ethical and animal welfare concerns associated with pithing far outweigh its educational benefit, especially when there are suitable alternatives available to teach the same curriculum.


Edited by LittleChickenRacingTeam - 9/15/08 at 10:09am
post #2 of 19

Interesting.  Thanks for posting this!  I had never heard of using this method as a way to kill a bird until I read about it in this forum.  I had always thought that it was a technique to use after the bird is killed (with ax or knife) to loosen the feathers for plucking (de-braining).

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Busy with three kids, three dogs, a garden overrun with aphids and some chickens:  1 Easter Egger(Nutmeg), 1 Turken(Chick-a-Saurus-Pex), 1 Hamburg(Purdee), 1 Minorca (Cayenne) and 2 Polish (Butter and Flour), and 4 new chicks in the brooder!!  I also have a freezer full of home raised Cornish X.
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post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by menageriemama 

Interesting.  Thanks for posting this!  I had never heard of using this method as a way to kill a bird until I read about it in this forum.  I had always thought that it was a technique to use after the bird is killed (with ax or knife) to loosen the feathers for plucking (de-braining).


Yes, lopping the birds head off is ABSOLUTELY the worst way to go & causes the feathers to set & be difficult to remove.

There are several ways of cutting blood vessels in poultry, the most common killing method. In the conventional industry, the cartoid arteries and the jugular veins are cut on both sides of the neck by a deep cut in the front. In kosher and halaal slaughter, only one side of the neck is cut, so the birds bleed more slowly. The spinal cord should not be cut (as when the head is cut off), because the feathers "set" and are hard to pick.  The esophagus should also not be cut, to prevent microbial contamination from leakage.

post #4 of 19

Wow...  well.. I must say that I learned this the hard way this weekend.  I expected the birds to be dead, not incapacitated, and when they weren't I felt as though I had failed them somehow.

post #5 of 19

How then do you slice them in the front without cutting the esophagus. That's where it is.

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post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by spydertoys 

How then do you slice them in the front without cutting the esophagus. That's where it is.


Cartoid arteries/jugular veins are on each SIDE of the neck

Edited to add....Esophagus is behind/deeper than the cartoid arteries which are closer to the surface than the esophagus.


Edited by LittleChickenRacingTeam - 9/15/08 at 10:52am
post #7 of 19

I asked before, but didn't get a satisfactory answer, so I'll try again.  What are pros and cons of using a chicken dispatcher.  It's a tool commonly used in England to kill a chicken.  It's like a pair of pliers that is designed to break the chickens neck.  The throat is then cut to allow the bird to bleed out.  I assume the damage to the spinal cord will cause the feathers to set.  This isn't too big a deal for me, I think I'll be skinning mine anyway.

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post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by kinnip 

I asked before, but didn't get a satisfactory answer, so I'll try again.  What are pros and cons of using a chicken dispatcher.  It's a tool commonly used in England to kill a chicken.  It's like a pair of pliers that is designed to break the chickens neck.  The throat is then cut to allow the bird to bleed out.  I assume the damage to the spinal cord will cause the feathers to set.  This isn't too big a deal for me, I think I'll be skinning mine anyway.


Typically, in the comercial processing of poultry the birds are electrically stunned & then have their throats cut to bleed out. I honestly don't know if breaking the neck would cause the feathers to set.

post #9 of 19

A little off topic, but what the heck.  Just how funky is the smell when you scald for plucking?

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post #10 of 19

I think I prefer "PITHING....The Fake Story".

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