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Originally Posted by Shroppy View Post

To follow up, perhaps you would be willing to provide insight into the truth that GM crops containing Bt toxin may cause toxic effects to multiple organ systems, allergic reactions and/or sensitize humans - and thence animals - to other food substances? 

There have been 100s of real pear reviewed scientific studies and nothing conclusively dangerous has been found in GMO crops... I'm not going to debate it as most people have their minds made up and no matter what any study shows people will argue only the side that fits their views...

The reality is most all organic and even certified GMO free labeled products now contains GMO genes, the door is opened and it's never going to be shut...

Either through genetic selection, naturally occurring genetic mutation, selective breeding and/or gene splicing the foods we grow today are not what I would consider 'natural' they have all been tweaked and modified to our needs and wants...

IMO, just because humans tweaked the the genes and took an evolutionary short cut does not equate to bad nor good, any less or more than a natural selectively breed mutation being good or bad...

Just look at 'corn' 8000 some odd years ago compared to what it is today after human tampering and domestication...


I say do what you feel best for yourself, if GMO, Organic or non-GMO floats your boat go with it... It's the same philosophy I take towards those that choose to be vegetarians, I don't condemn their choice or argue that they are eating the wrong things and I would expect the same courtesy back in regards to my eating choices...
post #42 of 44

Just bought my first bags of Kalmbach 17 hi-omega, hi-D.... looks and smells good to me, no dust. Had poor experience w/ Dumor brand, hens did not eat it well, even tho it is supposedly made by Purina to replicate Layena for TSC, my hens prefer the Layena. I can get the Kalmbach for less than the Layena and I like the fact that Kalmbach is locally milled, so hopefully fresher. Here's hoping the hens like it.

post #43 of 44

Human penicillin (antibiotic) is made from Penicillium chrysogenum

Other species of Penicillium are used in cheesemaking, etc. 

 

The species Penicillium funiculosum  is used in chicken feed to help break down the cellulose in plant fiber, making the chicken feed more edible. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm trying to learn so my question is:

 

One of the ingredients in the organic food is Penicillum funiculosum fermentation product.

 

Isn't Penicillum a type of antibiotic? If it is then wouldn't that be bad to feeding your chickens very day? Or can it be compared to making penicillin from mold? That the base for the antibiotic is in the mold but doesn't become an antibiotic until you take the mold and modify it. Sorry if I'm not making sense just trying to wrap my brain around the info.

 

When I google searched it I came up with a lot of articles like this onehttp://www.researchgate.net/publication/19401592_SQ_30957_a_new_antibiotic_produced_by_Penicillium_funiculosum._Taxonomy_fermentation_isolation_structure_determination_synthesis_and_antibacterial_activity


Edited by Rainier - 10/6/14 at 3:09pm

post #44 of 44
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Originally Posted by CalChicken View Post

One of the ingredients in the organic food is Penicillum funiculosum fermentation product.

They use the enzymes created by the Penicillin Funiculosum to ferment the feed to make it more digestible, the end product contains no antibiotic properties...
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