Intervention: Helping Your Chicks Hatch

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Edited By silkiechicken:

Please read this thread first on a discussion of helping vs not.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=45583&p=1
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Hi,
For those who have an incubated hatch and are wondering when and how to help your chicks that are not making progress, you may be able to use this info.

Do NOT be afraid to help the chick out! If you don't hear as much peeping, or see as much beak movement and it has been hours-it's probably time to help. More than likely it has nothing to do with a "weak" chick, but has everything to do with a chick whose membrane has dried out, or is too large for its shell but otherwise perfectly healthy and normal.

A good indicator of when to help (besides the peeping and moving lessening) is if you see that the pipped area has a very very white membrane showing through at the edges. Most intervention is required because of humidity issues.

When the chick pips its beak externally the drying process of the membrane really kicks in. And drying makes it nearly impossible for the chick to move around to "zip" the rest of the shell.

Here's what you need:

Have WARM water handy
Really Really WET WARM washcloth
DULL tweezers-not sharp and pointy
An eyedropper, or q-tips, or medicine dropper
Clean hands
Good lighting

Here's what you do:

Remove your egg from bator keeping in mind to turn off any air cconditioning and fans. You want your room as warm as you can stand. (Do not worry about the chick cooling off too much if the room is fairly warm. I have had mine out of the bator for up to 1/2 hour working on the shell and membrane-and the chicks are alive and healthy today). And do NOT be afraid to open and close the incubator-just keep adding wet cloths to the bator to keep humidity up.

Using your dull tipped tweezers, carefully start at the pip already created and lift ONLY the shell (like a boiled egg-but try hard to NOT include any membrane in your peeling of the shell) and to work around the shell. The best process is to take a bit in the tweezers and PINCH the shell and it will break in very small pieces gradually creating a neat little "zip". The key is to pinch small areas at a time and not remove huge sections. Your goal is to imitate what the chick would do under normal circumstances.

Zip the shell around the end where the chick started pipping-it should be at the large end of the egg, but sometimes they will pip at the small pointy end or even in the middle.

As you help zip the shell carefully take your warm water dropper etc. and "bathe" the membrane occassionally to start softening it up. Be very very carefull not to drop water or soak the area of the beak. You do not want to drop water in the nostrils and drown the chick.

If for any reason you see blood from the membrane-STOP. Put the egg back in the bator, and wrap the very wet, warm washcloth around the exposed zip you have created. Be careful to not completely cover the beak, but cover as much of the exposed membrane as you can to soften it up. Lay the pipped BEAK area on its side or facing up-not facing down-keep in mind the chick is breathing AIR at this point and will need to have an open uncovered access to breathe.

Leave the baby in the bator for an hour or two longer. Then try repeating the process untill you have zipped entirely around the egg. The MOST important object is to get the membrane very soft like it should have been for the chick to make its way out by softening it in the warm washcloth.

In VERY difficult cases, over a period of hours, you can, in steps, do this process and remove almost ALL of the shell and soak the membrane in the wet washcloth in the incubator. You also can (using your judgement) decide to help remove the membrane itself, but do not do that too early in the shell removing process (you can email me for more directions on the membrane).

All in all, you need to be very confident to intervene like this. If you are too scared or iffy about it, you may want to just wait it out. But honestly, if you wait and the chick gets quieter and stiller, chances are you will loose it without doing some intervention.

So you know it really does work, I have hatched out MANY like this myself. Once they make the pip and can't zip, the membrane rapidly dehydrates. Also, some chicks are just WAY to big for their shells and cannot physically move around to do the zipping and then they die in one spot having been unable to rotate. I found that several difficult chciks are actually the largest ones-the smaller "runt" chicks have literally kicked their way out like they were kickboxing.

I "gave birth" to, or hatched 2 chicks out COMPLETELY in my hand by using this method above AND removing the membrane (email or ask for those membrane directions). And I have also helped way more zip using the above method. They are alive and thriving as I speak-so it can be done! I am not a person who is willing to sit and listen to my bator get quieter and quieter as the chicks die in their shells. But, as I stated, you must choose what you feel is best for your situation, and be sure and ask if you are not sure when to intervene-there are many here on the BYC that have a wealth of info.

Best wishes
Hello I just read your advice & need help! My eggs are all dying on hatch day. I started out with 15 eggs. They were unfortunately shipped eggs & the box was delivered torn & dented all over so I knew I may have problem. They all started developing fine for the first half of incubation & then as time went on I lost a few close to day 18. I was left with 6 until hatch day 2 were dead with their beaks pointed up ready to pip, but never got the chance. I opened the 2 dead ones to see if something may be wrong. They were covered in this very thick mucous I assume was part membrane. I have hatched many eggs & helped many out of egg after 12 hours of no progress after pip & they survived, but these are totally different. I have never had such a clear very very hard to penetrate thick mucous wrapped around the entire chick like this. They we’re not shrink wrapped. The dead eggs I was investigating this stuff was hard for me to break the seal that I don’t see how any of them could have survived. Besides this thick mucous there bellies were severely bloated so much it looked like their skin was about to pop. I was then left with 3 barely moving in eggs if at all, but no pipping not even a beak up so I was scared to just wait it out & end up with zero chicks for not helping. I cracked the first one & there was just a tiny bit of movement that I really thought it was me moving him, but he was alive but barely. I helped break his head thru this thick mucous that looked drowning or suffocating. Then left him in the egg curled up with only head out to breath. The next one same thing is except this one was a lot stronger, but it’s head wasn’t at all near where i thought it should have been. He started chirping but I could not find his head. I was panicked it was going to drown. I ended up while searching for his head messing the entire egg up in which I didn’t want to do, but he was completely upside down his head buried towards the middle of the egg. I finally got it out & I truly don’t believe he could have popped, but he is the most feisty one but with such a damaged egg I’m not sure what to do b/c he has blead out some, but he’s still loudly chirping every so often & squirming with the shell still attached to his entire back pipped which I don’t know if it’s going to help anything now. I may have killed him. I ended up 3 so besides the one I’m worried about the other 2 have there beaks out, breaking but not much else. I left them inside the shell. Can you please advise me what I need to do for survival?
 

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