I totally fkrgot about this forum... lifes been so busy... we moved this past october and ia sent Ll my birds to freezer camp. Im birdless.. we are working on... or starting the process of building a house so otaint worth trying to have birds right now anyways... then i may just be going to chickens... we need the bigger eggs more.... and meat... we love ths quail meat.. but the fiNce hates cracking the eggs...