New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Alternative to burying wire - Page 2

post #11 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by aart View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickmommarains View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowchicks View Post

Lay the hardware cloth on the ground and tie it to the frame of the run, then put bedding on top. We did it that way because there was too many tree roots to dig up. It works really well so far for deep litter method, now that there is at least 4" thick of bedding material on top. Chickens have no problem scratching for bugs or treats.

I have just done this with stucco wire and was a little worried about the chicks digging down to it. I am glad to hear it has worked for you. Thank you.

I would worry about buried wire like that, especially stucco lath which is very rough and sharp.

Eventually the mesh will rust and start to break up...my birds can dig a hole 8" deep.....

 

Aart,

 

Her's is actually stucco "wire" (17 ga), compared to stucco "lath" ... and her's is buried12" IIRC ...

 

Here is a link showing the difference ... http://thestuccoguy.com/the-different-types-of-wire-found-in-lath/

 

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Not sure what the OP means by "Poultry Cloth" but, the "Hardware Cloth" in the picture with the white chicks is hardware cloth ... and good stuff, just make sure it is the heavy duty 19 gauge or better ...

Keep your eyes on the road ... And, your head out of your apps!
Reply
Keep your eyes on the road ... And, your head out of your apps!
Reply
post #12 of 17

@123RedBeard   Gotcha...was thinking of the expanded......still wouldn't bury any kind of wire in a run.

 

I always think about possible failure points of designs and what it would take to fix something that did fail...digging up rusty wire mesh, I'll pass.

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply
post #13 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123RedBeard View Post

Aart,

Her's is actually stucco "wire" (17 ga), compared to stucco "lath" ... and her's is buried12" IIRC ...

Here is a link showing the difference ... http://thestuccoguy.com/the-different-types-of-wire-found-in-lath/



Not sure what the OP means by "Poultry Cloth" but, the "Hardware Cloth" in the picture with the white chicks is hardware cloth ... and good stuff, just make sure it is the heavy duty 19 gauge or better ...

I checked out your link and indeed what I used is the 17 ga stuff pictured at the top. It is essentially wrapped from the ceiling on one side, down under the floor and back up the other side. My only option at this point to change it would be to cut the 2 center pieces ( there are 4 pieces side by side) about 12 inches in and leave a square in the center where the birds could dig as deep as they wanted. My only concern there would be the edges left behind where they were cut.

I'm hoping what I've got going will work. The chicks came to our house before we built the coop and I'm feeling the time crunch. This site has been so helpful. Thank you all.
post #14 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickmommarains View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123RedBeard View Post

Aart,

Her's is actually stucco "wire" (17 ga), compared to stucco "lath" ... and her's is buried12" IIRC ...

Here is a link showing the difference ... http://thestuccoguy.com/the-different-types-of-wire-found-in-lath/
 

Not sure what the OP means by "Poultry Cloth" but, the "Hardware Cloth" in the picture with the white chicks is hardware cloth ... and good stuff, just make sure it is the heavy duty 19 gauge or better ...

I checked out your link and indeed what I used is the 17 ga stuff pictured at the top. It is essentially wrapped from the ceiling on one side, down under the floor and back up the other side. My only option at this point to change it would be to cut the 2 center pieces ( there are 4 pieces side by side) about 12 inches in and leave a square in the center where the birds could dig as deep as they wanted. My only concern there would be the edges left behind where they were cut.

I'm hoping what I've got going will work. The chicks came to our house before we built the coop and I'm feeling the time crunch. This site has been so helpful. Thank you all.

Looks like 'chicken wire' but heavier gauge wire...might be just fine, just keep an eye out.

How deep is your litter inside the run?

You'll probably be glad you have it inside the edges of the wall,

mine have almost dug out underneath the apron in places and I have to throw logs and boards to keep them from digging there.

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply
post #15 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by 123RedBeard View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aart View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickmommarains View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowchicks View Post

Lay the hardware cloth on the ground and tie it to the frame of the run, then put bedding on top. We did it that way because there was too many tree roots to dig up. It works really well so far for deep litter method, now that there is at least 4" thick of bedding material on top. Chickens have no problem scratching for bugs or treats.

I have just done this with stucco wire and was a little worried about the chicks digging down to it. I am glad to hear it has worked for you. Thank you.

I would worry about buried wire like that, especially stucco lath which is very rough and sharp.

Eventually the mesh will rust and start to break up...my birds can dig a hole 8" deep.....

 

Aart,

 

Her's is actually stucco "wire" (17 ga), compared to stucco "lath" ... and her's is buried12" IIRC ...

 

Here is a link showing the difference ... http://thestuccoguy.com/the-different-types-of-wire-found-in-lath/

 

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Not sure what the OP means by "Poultry Cloth" but, the "Hardware Cloth" in the picture with the white chicks is hardware cloth ... and good stuff, just make sure it is the heavy duty 19 gauge or better ...

 

An update on the buried hardware cloth after 1+ yr, covered with several inches of deep litter in a covered run. It is still in very good condition. No chicken bumble feet or wire rusting. White chicks got older though.

 

post #16 of 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by aart View Post
 

Looks like 'chicken wire' but heavier gauge wire...might be just fine, just keep an eye out.

How deep is your litter inside the run?

You'll probably be glad you have it inside the edges of the wall,

mine have almost dug out underneath the apron in places and I have to throw logs and boards to keep them from digging there.

The boards on the side are 2' tall, so I plan to fill it up as high as I can with dirt from the yard topped with some sandy soil left from a garden bed I built and used the soil to amend our very clay rich dirt.I am still unsure whether I should top that with wood chips or shavings or just leave the soil. I am open to suggestions.

 

We have "stray" chickens ALL over our neighborhood, so I am counting on them to be the first choice for predators. We do have squirrels and skunks in our backyard, but that is about all. we will keep a close eye on everything though and strengthen as needed. The wire I used is galvanized, so I am hoping that will keep it from rusting for a while.

post #17 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowchicks View Post
 

 

An update on the buried hardware cloth after 1+ yr, covered with several inches of deep litter in a covered run. It is still in very good condition. No chicken bumble feet or wire rusting. White chicks got older though.

 

It looks like it is holding up really well. Thanks for the update.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav: