I wrote to Sue & said I would share.......In my experience with BCMs you have to be patient. I find them slow to mature to be the beautiful birds they become. I learned to just wait & let them go through a couple of molts then they transform. Years ago I was worried that I wasn't producing anything special but low & behold I got busy & wasn't watching closely while I was down & they looked like different birds beofre I knew it.Sure if Karen doesn't want both. They are late bloomers. They are almost 8 weeks old and are just starting to get their tail feathers. They aren't showing much if any copper yet. I assume that will start to show soon. They are pretty tame, when I open their little pen door I have to physically keep pushing them back inside. My wife (Gayle) gets a laugh out of it every time. Kern