Originally Posted by duluthralphie
The color calculator is just that. You are crossing breeds? Are there different breeds? I have heard some say they are all one breed with just variation in colors, is that right or wrong?
It almost seems "breeds" are kind of arbitrary. Even with chickens, take my Creamettes, They have leghorn and I have no idea what in their background. Yet they are considered a breed.
If I cross my Creamettes with a Barred rock can I just decide it is a new breed?
If Ginger was to live (which he will not) and I crossed him with another like him eventually making a blind strain of turkeys could I call them a breed?
The APA recognizes one breed which is turkey and 8 varieties which are Beltsville Small White, Black, Bourbon Red, Bronze, Narragansett, Royal Palm, Slate and white Holland.
I believe that Holm knows the requirements to get a breed recognized. As I recall relating to chickens there must be at least 5 different people raising the breed for at least 5 years. I vaguely recall that a viable flock had to be at least 50 chickens.
Swedish Flower Hens will never be an APA certified breed because the APA requires that there be a basic color listed and the appeal of the SFH line is their multitude of colors. Cream Legbars breeders are still fighting among each other over what the breed standard should be. Until that is settled they will not be a recognized breed by the APA even though they are a recognized breed in England.
Crossing a Cream Legbar with a Barred Rock is a relatively common cross but all it creates is an F1 hybrid.
Check out the Cream Legbar Hybrid thread and there are images of the cross there.