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Drakes can be a happy flock by themselves. Especially those raised together.

2:4 sounds like a bad idea. Like I said I had 1:5 and it didn't work out very well because he only mated with 3 of them. The more females the better, IMO.

If they want the drakes and are able to take care of them then I don't see any issues. Just because they have a big pond doesn't mean it's easier though. How will they get them off the pond at night? Do they want ducks anyway? I rehomed my drake and he is kept as a pet. I don't want to sound like you have to kill them if you don't want to just understand that we have to protect the females in our flocks because they can't do it themselves.


Well, I may have to bite the bullet and have one of them taken care of or re-homed quickly.  I've noticed the WH drake balding on its back and wrote about it in another post with pictures.  Went home for lunch to make sure they had enough water and check on them and the mallard culprit was just picking at them all.  I'm convinced the balding on the WH's back is his doing.  I'll have to separate him (I'm going to call it a guy because he's mean and I'd feel better about getting rid of a guy) and figure out what to do with him.

 

EDIT: After searching around, I'm going to separate him for a few days, then reintroduce him and see if the re-established order changes his tune.


Edited by wallawu - 5/26/16 at 12:08pm
post #12 of 17
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Drakes can be a happy flock by themselves. Especially those raised together.


2:4 sounds like a bad idea. Like I said I had 1:5 and it didn't work out very well because he only mated with 3 of them. The more females the better, IMO.


If they want the drakes and are able to take care of them then I don't see any issues. Just because they have a big pond doesn't mean it's easier though. How will they get them off the pond at night? Do they want ducks anyway? I rehomed my drake and he is kept as a pet. I don't want to sound like you have to kill them if you don't want to just understand that we have to protect the females in our flocks because they can't do it themselves.


Well, I may have to bite the bullet and have one of them taken care of or re-homed quickly.  I've noticed the WH drake balding on its back and wrote about it in another post with pictures.  Went home for lunch to make sure they had enough water and check on them and the mallard culprit was just picking at them all.  I'm convinced the balding on the WH's back is his doing.  I'll have to separate him (I'm going to call it a guy because he's mean and I'd feel better about getting rid of a guy) and figure out what to do with him.

EDIT: After searching around, I'm going to separate him for a few days, then reintroduce him and see if the re-established order changes his tune.
How old are all your ducks? Mating behavior doesn't generally show up till 15 weeks or later. So anything before then could just be establishing pecking order. Are some younger than others? Usually ducks will pick on ones that are smaller than the others or younger. Ducks also don't do well by themselves though so if you do separate them you should keep them in groups or get some kind of fencing so they can see each other but not touch.

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post #13 of 17
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How old are all your ducks? Mating behavior doesn't generally show up till 15 weeks or later. So anything before then could just be establishing pecking order. Are some younger than others? Usually ducks will pick on ones that are smaller than the others or younger. Ducks also don't do well by themselves though so if you do separate them you should keep them in groups or get some kind of fencing so they can see each other but not touch.

 

I got them from TSC on April 23rd.  I'll assume they were a few days old then, so about 6 weeks now.

 

I was able to separate the culprit and put him in a tub right next to them.  They chatted a LOT at first, but the tub was too tall for him to really see them.  Unfortunately he's an escape artist.  In one jump, he's out of that thing, so I had to put some hardware cloth on top of it.  He/she was separated for 3 days and I re-introduced him last night with no food around (like you would do with a dog.)  The one that he picked on went straight after him kind of like he was trying to face him and bite his neck.  Soon after that the Black Swedish female kind of did the same "neck dance" at him, but nobody was really biting.  Then without missing a beat, the mallard starts sneaking up behind the others and pulling at their feathers to the point where the male Black Swedish let out a pretty big scream, like "somebody do something!"  So, back into the tub he went.  This evening I'm going to take him outside first, then bring them out one by one so it isn't 5 against 1 again, and it's on "neutral turf."

 

I've been happy about getting ducks, and I really enjoy watching them, but this weekend was just one of those where things kept going wrong, and a lot revolved around them (and the dishwasher, and the air conditioner).  I've been trying to build their house, but unlike any other year here it's been raining most of the past few weeks, and I don't have a garage to build it in.  It's left me feeling overwhelmed.  I wanted to have them outside by the end of the weekend and while I made some progress, it wasn't near as much as I wanted to have done because we had a huge thunderstorm yesterday afternoon that lasted all night.  I probably got too serious about the design/structural integrity, this could really be a child's playhouse (or a full grown man's).  I'm sure once I get it done and get them outside, I'll feel so much better.  I just don't need any more health issues with these little guys and girls.  I'm hoping that angel wing won't be any issue with any of them.

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To add to that, when I first removed the bully, the other ducks actually laid down for the first few hours and were much more calm almost immediately.

post #15 of 17
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How old are all your ducks? Mating behavior doesn't generally show up till 15 weeks or later. So anything before then could just be establishing pecking order. Are some younger than others? Usually ducks will pick on ones that are smaller than the others or younger. Ducks also don't do well by themselves though so if you do separate them you should keep them in groups or get some kind of fencing so they can see each other but not touch.

I got them from TSC on April 23rd.  I'll assume they were a few days old then, so about 6 weeks now.

I was able to separate the culprit and put him in a tub right next to them.  They chatted a LOT at first, but the tub was too tall for him to really see them.  Unfortunately he's an escape artist.  In one jump, he's out of that thing, so I had to put some hardware cloth on top of it.  He/she was separated for 3 days and I re-introduced him last night with no food around (like you would do with a dog.)  The one that he picked on went straight after him kind of like he was trying to face him and bite his neck.  Soon after that the Black Swedish female kind of did the same "neck dance" at him, but nobody was really biting.  Then without missing a beat, the mallard starts sneaking up behind the others and pulling at their feathers to the point where the male Black Swedish let out a pretty big scream, like "somebody do something!"  So, back into the tub he went.  This evening I'm going to take him outside first, then bring them out one by one so it isn't 5 against 1 again, and it's on "neutral turf."

I've been happy about getting ducks, and I really enjoy watching them, but this weekend was just one of those where things kept going wrong, and a lot revolved around them (and the dishwasher, and the air conditioner).  I've been trying to build their house, but unlike any other year here it's been raining most of the past few weeks, and I don't have a garage to build it in.  It's left me feeling overwhelmed.  I wanted to have them outside by the end of the weekend and while I made some progress, it wasn't near as much as I wanted to have done because we had a huge thunderstorm yesterday afternoon that lasted all night.  I probably got too serious about the design/structural integrity, this could really be a child's playhouse (or a full grown man's).  I'm sure once I get it done and get them outside, I'll feel so much better.  I just don't need any more health issues with these little guys and girls.  I'm hoping that angel wing won't be any issue with any of them.
So at this age you don't know who is a male or not. Quacking at this point would mean female and peeping would mean they might be male. Females can be like that too. How much room do you have? I think that could be causing some issues. The smallest out of my girls was pretty nasty to the others but that was her way of making up for the size difference. They worked it out over time. I think it was not a good idea to keep one lone duck by itself for 3 days. Ducks NEED other ducks. I'm sorry you are having a hard time with this group.

@Miss Lydia
@jtn42248
@WVduckchick
@Debs Flock

Do y'all have ideas?

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post #16 of 17
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So at this age you don't know who is a male or not. Quacking at this point would mean female and peeping would mean they might be male. Females can be like that too. How much room do you have? I think that could be causing some issues. The smallest out of my girls was pretty nasty to the others but that was her way of making up for the size difference. They worked it out over time. I think it was not a good idea to keep one lone duck by itself for 3 days. Ducks NEED other ducks. I'm sorry you are having a hard time with this group.

@Miss Lydia
@jtn42248
@WVduckchick
@Debs Flock

Do y'all have ideas?

 

I had one Black Swedish quacking at about 2 1/2 weeks.  Other than that we have peepers and some that have a really full range of chirping/peeping.  The WH's went to the vet for the respiratory infection and she sexed them and said one is definitely a male (the smaller one that's almost bald) and the other is most likely female.  The 2nd Black Swedish is by far the largest and goes absolutely bonkers in one tone when I pick it up, so I'm assuming male.

 

The kiddie pool they're in is 5.5-6ft across.  Several grown people could sit in it.  It stays pretty clean, which is a good indicator of the size.  I have the water catcher in the middle so it also stays dry.  This nippy mallard is starting to get black and white stripes on the tips of its wings and is probably the smallest of the bunch, and I think I jinxed myself yesterday because the other one is starting to show signs of angel wing.  The left wing tip is more pointing back than tucked in.

 

As for when they were outside, I don't see any bullying.  They bathed, they ate watermelon, they laid down, they foraged, they bathed, they laid down, they bathed.  When I brought one in, the others came from the back of the yard all the way up to the kitchen window because of it's cries for help.  That made me happy.  I brought them all in and fed them oats and feed and thought it had worked itself out, but once they were done eating and the others started laying down to sleep, the instigator started going around really tugging hard at their feathers.  They really scream in pain!  The fact that it could still be a female makes me hesitant to give up on it.  I've tried separating it with just wire, but it tries to get out to the point of potential injury.  It may just be ready to get outside, and I'm trying really hard to make it happen, but we had storms again yesterday evening and it looks like it's going to continue until Saturday night.  Next week FINALLY looks like it's going to be clear all week.  I'm going to bust my butt to get everything ready.  I just want to get it right the first time and let them be happy.

post #17 of 17

I've been told to put him/her back in there and that he/she would grow out of it pretty soon.  This was from a guy locally that's raised many ducks, and he says it happens to his all the time from the 5-8 week range.  He said "Don't feel bad for letting it happen, you're giving them a home and building a structure to keep them safe from literally everything besides each other.  To ducks in the wild, some juvenile feather pulling is the least of their concerns."  He said having them separate is probably doing more psychological damage than he/she is doing physically.  These all seem like valid points.

 

He also let me know that a town nearby has an animal swap meets and that the local Tractor Supply is trying to start one.  This makes me feel better about maybe having too many males.

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