Originally Posted by Pipe Dreaming
Haha..I'm trying to absorb information here!
I just read the article chooks linked on shipped eggs. To turn or not to turn for the 1st 7 days seems to be the question...
I seriously had a dream last night, I got my shipped eggs and when I opened the box there was yolks everywhere.. a couple were just cracked. Lol.. it was a mess.
I just don't think I could wait that long. I'm thinking gentle hand turning for the first 7, then put them in the autoturner after we candle.
You sound like me with the dreaming. That's okay, you can rest when you're awake, maybe. lol Good luck with your hatch!
Originally Posted by FridayYet
I've got shipped eggs on the way, too. If they get here Saturday, I'll hold them for a day of rest and set Sunday, maybe Monday, depending on the time. 7 days seems way too long for me to not turn, so they'll sit in the incubator for a day without turning, and I'll probably turn gently day 2, then turn as normal day 3.
Last time I did shipped eggs it didn't go well. (5/29) so I'm hoping for a few to hatch out of the dozen I ordered. I'm hoping ordering from the next state over at a higher altitude will help, too.
I agree. 7 days seems like forever if you're not turning. I found this comment interesting:
As requested, I have attached my sources supporting my decision to continue turning the eggs during the first seven days, despite the condition of the air cell. It is very curious to me how turning in the first seven days actually affects what the chick does when it is getting into hatching postion on or about day 15, however the below studies indicate that it does.
Additionally, while these studies are not specifically on point by using shipped eggs, that fact does not make it inapplicable to this conversation.http://japr.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/1/14.full.pdf
(concludes that not turning quail eggs throughout the incubation increases the incidence of Type II malposition)http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00071660400006271?journalCode=cbps20#preview
(unfortunately access to the full article costs $68; however, the authors (Elibol and Brake) conclude that “the absence of turning from 3 to 8 d, or 0 to 2 d alone or in combination with other time periods reduced fertile hatchability and increased embryonic mortality and percentage of Malposition II. The most critical period for turning commercial broiler hatching eggs during incubation was from 0 to 7 d with the single most critical 2-d period being 0 to 2 d.”)