quail leg problem 2

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I apologize for not replying earlier, I have not been able to get my hands on a good camera for a few days.

I took this picture this night


This air sac is sometimes there and at other times it is not. I have to hold her so that she can get food and water because of her bad leg.Tonight she did not have the sac and after I gave her food and water the the sac that you see in the picture was there.
This sac also goes into her breast area.
It feels soft and squishy.



I have been giving her doxycycline for 6 days now. I have also noticed some scabs on her swellings. But these areas do not feel hot. What do you think I should do?
 
I believe you are looking/feeling at her crop, although hard to tell from the picture. If this is not in the crop area of the breast, it is possible she has some sort of tumor or something. The crop is located just off to the side of the breast bone on the right side of the bird. A bit down from the shoulders. You can feel another bird during the day after they have eaten for comparison.

Are you seeing ANY improvement on the swelling? After 6 days you should see some changes. If not, you might want to discontinue the meds.

If you could possibly post another pic of these scabs, it would help a bit to see what is going on.
 
I think you are right that that air sac is her crop.

I am not seeing any improvement in her swelling. Because doxycycline is an antibiotic do you think I should keep treating her anyway?



I could only find one scab today. Here is a picture.
 
Yes, I think that is her crop.
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If the antibiotics are not making ANY improvement, then yes you should stop. If there was a TINY bit of improvement I would say to continue on with the meds or maybe move up to a more powerful drug like Baytril. But don't do this unless you see something happening.

How old is she? And how do you keep her....on bedding or wire? And is she in with any males?
 
I apologize for not replying earlier, I was away and I could use the internet.

I treated willow with doxycycline for 10 days as the directions said ( her last day of treatment was the 30th of June). Her swelling went down a tiny bit from before I started treating her. But today her swelling looked worse than before.

She has been by herself for about 5 weeks in a cage with a metal floor with aluminum foil spread over it ( this makes it easier for cleaning). She is about 2 years and 3 months old. Before she was separated she was with a male. I just switched my birds from bedding to wire a few months ago, but she would have been on wire for a little more than a week.

The birds with the raised scales have not shown much improvement. The really injured bird was showing improvement but now it is looking bad again. I treated them with ivermectin a few weeks ago by treating them once, waited 10 days and then I treated them again. Do you think I should apply ivermectin more often?
 
If two doses of Ivermectin isn't killing off the mites, I wouldn't continue to keep using it. You can try some vaseline on the scales to help soften them. It is possible there are no more mites and the scales have just toughened up. Vaseline will help to soften them and also kill any mites that still might be present.

As for the swelling, I am not sure what else you can try. You could try a stronger antibiotic like Baytril. If she indeed does have a tissue infection, Baytril will kill it. But we are still not sure this is an infection. If the Doxy has done little for her this could be some other type of inflammation or arthritis type thing??

As for the metal flooring, it sounds awful hard. You might consider some grass hay or something. One bird isn't going to mess up a big pile of hay very fast.
 
Oh....something you might try is Apple Cider Vinegar. It can help with inflammation in the body. Put 3/4 teaspoon ACV in a quart plastic waterer and fill with water. Change and make a new batch daily. ACV can help to raise the PH of the body and help to fight off virus's, bacteria's and clears out free radicals in the joints.

Something else that can help, although this is better used in the winter is Infra Red treatments. Using an infra red bulb, let the bird bask in the heat for 15 to 20 mins a day. Infra red is known to help arthritis patients and their inflammation. Infra red is a very healing light wave and I used these bulbs in all hospital cages.
 
Since she isn't improving I'm thinking she has a soft tissue injury or as @TwoCrows says arthritis. I hope Willow gets some relief soon.
 

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