Campines' new wordlwide website

By Drieslag · Aug 3, 2013 · ·
  1. Drieslag
    Yes, it's finally there, modest but ambitious, frivolous but to the bone.

    Any suggestions, corrections, ... please let me know.

    And if you are a Campine breeder send me your coordinates so I can add them to my wordlwide map.


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  1. Drieslag
    This is mostly the reason why I named that particular chapter on my website 'Mythology', since there often are as many beliefs as dreams about the origin of a breed. Which may sometime lead to discussions which lead away from the essence, namely that the Campine is a fairly new breed though with ancient heritage, and formostly with a potential that still has to be fulfilled.
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  2. Drieslag
    In the Dutch link I posted they mention that according to a report of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation from 1994 the Fayoumi was introduced into Egypt around 1800. This would have happened some 80 km south of Cairo. Some Egyptian scientists share this viewpoint, it seems. This could have happened during the reign of king Mohammed Ali Pasha (1769-1849) who brought the chickens from the Turkish city of Biga explaining why these chickens are sometimes also called Bigawi. Another possibility is that they were brought along by Napoleon's troups (1798-1801) during his campaigns there.
  3. Penny Hen
    The article that I was reading was theorizing that if the Fayoumis seem to have been in Egypt at the same time that the Phoenicians traded with them that they may have spread them all a long their trade routes. This is on BYC. It is by Resolution.
  4. Drieslag
    Hi, many thanks for your comments, I will try to fit the answers into the site asap.
    Double mating means keeping one pen purely to produce good females and another pen to produce the ideal males. This was required for the old style campine because of the standard that was set in which there were different demands in the coloration of both sexes. By going for hen feathered males you avoid all this double work and can work much faster and obtain nice males and females in one pen. The henfeathered type/gene means the males will have exactly the same barring etc as the females.
    Regarding the DNA, I know that a study have been done between Brakels and Fayoumi. The results of these can easily be transplanted to Campines and Fayoumi. The study I'm talking about is completely in Dutch though and not one I can easily translate for you here. I'll see what I can do, but this is the document - 2010.pdf.
    All the pencilled poultry in this part of Europe can be traced back to the Gallina Turcica, so that's Hamburgs, Campines, Chaams, and the rest of them. There may have been a very slight input of Hamburg in the starting years of the English Campine, but I've read that this was not satisfactory because of the difference in width of bars and different eye colours (black versus orange).
  5. Penny Hen
    You may want to also cover the Campines relationship with what is probably a close cousin the Hampburgs. I notice that they are linked to the Gallina Turicica too.
    Comments (1)This definition is for the Hamburgh Chicken. The latin name gallina turcica was coined by Aldrovandi; it has never referred to a turkey (meleagris gallopavo), but to what is now called the Hamburgh Chicken, which has had, over the course of history, the names “Turkey Fowl,” “Bolton Grey,” “Creole Fowl,” and “Dutch Everyday Layers” (see The Country Gentleman: A Journal for the Farm, the Garden, and the Fireside, Albany, NY. Nov 16, 1854. Vol. IV, No. 20, Whole No. 98. Page 315).
  6. Penny Hen
    Very nice, good clean design. I have one question that you may want to clarify what is meant by "double mating". Dose that mean that the daughters had to be bred back to the sire to get good penciling or that the rooster must mate twice with the hen? I mean I am guessing the first is most likely but if someone totally new to chickens reads that it is unclear. And why does the hen feathered gene counter that problem? I am not a total newby with chickens or genetics but that is the first time I have heard about the henfeather gene having that effect. "More Input" (to quote Johnny5 the self-aware robot).
    Also have you checked to see if any DNA tracing has been done on the Campines? I was just reading that they have traced the Egyptian Fayoumis to have arrived in Egypt via India. They are studying the chicken genes to get more information on the movements of ancient peoples.
  7. Whittni
    It looks nice.

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