Deep Litter Method The Easiest Way To Deal With Chicken Litter Dlm

Deep Litter Method is basically a method in which you allow your coop litter to build up over a period of time.
By Dawn419 · Jan 11, 2012 · Updated May 1, 2012 · ·
  1. Dawn419
    Deep Litter Method

    DLM is basically a method in which you allow your coop litter to build up over a period of time. As the chicken manure and litter of choice compost, it helps to heat the coop, which in turn helps keep the chickens warmer. I had never heard of this before BYC and cleaning the coops once or twice a year, as opposed to weekly cleanings fits our lifestyle.

    I began using the DLM in early September '07, when we moved most of our Bantam flock from the Teacup Pterodactyl Townhouse into the main coop. I started out by adding 4 - 6 inches of pine shavings to the coop floor. After laying down the shavings, I used my sifter to sprinkle a fine layer of food grade DE over the litter, then stirred them together. I'm using the DE to help dry the pooh faster, which helps eliminate odor and reduces the fly population. The DE also helps protect the flock from mites/lice as they love to dust-bathe in the shavings/DE mix.

    Litter first added to coop in September.


    I added a "kick-board" to the doorway to help keep the litter in the coop. I just used a piece of scrap 1/4" plywood that we had handy. It's 10" tall.

    I stir the litter every few days, sometimes everyday, it just depends on how much time the gang spends inside and how much pooh there might be. The Banties do a great job helping me keep it stirred when they're dust-bathing in the litter, which helps cut down the work for me also.

    About once a month, I'll add a fresh layer of pine shavings and food grade DE. Again, this varies depending on how much time the birds spend inside. That's what I like about using the DLM. There are no set rules, you do this however it works best for you.

    Before adding new shavings...


    Layer of food grade DE on stirred liter...

    Layer of fresh pine shavings...

    At this point, I just let the flock stir in the new shavings and food grade DE. I don't measure how much of the shavings I add, I just add it until the old stuff is fully covered.
    As of today (11-20-07), I've been building the litter up for just over 2 months. There is no chicken smell in the coop what-so-ever, which really surprised visitors. It is approximately 6-8 inches deep at this time. I may do a clean-out in spring, but I may let it go will all depend on smell, how deep it is, are the shavings covering up the pophole door (just kidding)...

    I've had some dust issues, nothing major though. I just use a plant mister full of warm water and mist the shavings before stirring them up to help keep the dust down.
    I'm also using DLM in the Chick-N-Barn. I just added a few pieces of wood in the access door to help hold the litter inside. I won't be able to go very deep, about 6 inches, so I'll probably have to clean it twice a year. Only time will tell.

    Deep Litter Method Threads:
    Deep litter ChrisnTiff
    Deep litter method ? domromer
    Deep litter method? Help Sunny Day
    Deep Litter Method, Please explain, ? from sunnynparadise
    Can I use the deep litter method with Southeast Texas humidity? bionic_chicken
    Deep litter and linoleum floor? ebonykawai
    Getting mixed up...deep Sunny Day

    Thanks for stopping by! I hope more people will make a page showing how they use the DLM.

    Dawn & Skip
    updated: 4/12/08

    Coop & Run - Design, Construction & Maintenance Forum Section

    Share This Article

Recent User Reviews

  1. Kate Shaw
    "Great info!"
    5/5, 5 out of 5, reviewed Jun 5, 2019
    Newbie here. Thanks for the simplified info!
    Iditarod likes this.
  2. Celticdragonfly
    "Good bedding article"
    5/5, 5 out of 5, reviewed Jun 3, 2019
    This is a good article, that encouraged me to try this.

    I would have liked more information on the pros and cons of DE - I've seen a lot of questions about using it on other threads. I am using PDZ on the poop boards, and am unsure whether adding that to the litter would do as well.

    And extra points for naming your bantam coop the Teacup Pterodactyl Townhouse!
    Iditarod likes this.
  3. Caden Clinton
    "Good advice"
    5/5, 5 out of 5, reviewed May 30, 2019
    This is a great information “getter”.
    It has good advice and facts that back her up.:D
    Iditarod likes this.


To make a comment simply sign up and become a member!
  1. Linda V
    CONSTRUCTION SAND is a lot easier to find and buy than this "washed river sand" I keep hearing about. In fact, I've never found that any where! We buy 40 pound bags of "all purpose" sand at Home Depot and it's perfect for them! We would never use play sand, aquarium sand or any of the others as we don't want our girls to die. This sand thing is SERIOUS if you can't get a 40# bag of "general purpose" sand at Lowes or HD, don't use anything unless you know what it is. Their lives depend on it.'s a rough mixture of different grades with small pieces of rock or grit in it....and the girls love sitting on it during the hot days and sand DOESN'T FREEZE in the winter either! How anyone can only use anything else is beyond us.
      Kloskys Klucks, 9876, Lucymae and 3 others like this.
    1. Chickenrunlady
      do you put it in the coop also?
    2. Beyond Yonder
      Why would you say the sand would kill them. I use play sand under their perches and clean it every day like a kitty litter box.
    3. MissNiss
      I use sand in my coop, along with DE. So far so good, it's been 4 months since my girls moved in and they seem to like it. It does get dusty. What do you do with the poop? I've been throwing it into our municipal compost waste bin, but I think it's not really allowed and I'm hoping to get into composting.
  2. AlienChick
    DLM works great! I've been using it for 6 years now. I clean the coop once or twice a year (depending on how many chickens are housed). The key is to keep the litter DRY to avoid any odors. I use regular pine shavings from TSC and keep adding a bit more shavings as necessary throughout the year. Using DE will help keep it dry and you can also use Sweet PDZ Stall Dry. I put my waterers on pallets to keep the water away from the litter inside the coop. The chickens will keep things stirred up, but if there are areas that are getting compacted and moist, just grab a rake and do a quick stir. I can't imagine cleaning out a chicken coop every day or even every week - I have way too many other farm chores to take care of. So the DLM method fits very well into my farm lifestyle.
    1. 9876
      I will do this method as well. Seems very easy to care for and I also have multiple farm activities as well. Good article
  3. OB OBrien
    I use construction grade sand from HD or Lowes. Then mix in some PDZ. That's the stuff horse people put in their horse stalls to soak up and eliminate any odors from urine or poop. It works very well in controlling odors. We clean the chicken droppings out from under the roosts about twice a week. Use a small child's play rake as a sifter. It works something like a kitty litter scoop. Only clean it all out about once a year. We just add PDZ every once in a while.
      9876, Lucymae, MissNiss and 1 other person like this.
  4. Lady of McCamley
    @Linda V Just curious as to WHY anyone with chickens would use "food grade" DE instead of the Chicken Grade DE which not only has DE in it, but a certain amount of ash wood!
    Food grade DE is chosen because it is highly refined so that it is safe to use. I'm not sure what the "chicken grade" DE is that you refer to, but anyone buying DE should ask questions to be certain of the kind and quality of DE they are buying. Some products in the feed stores are food grade DE with additives, but make sure if it is really cheap that you are still getting a quality food grade DE.

    Non-food grade DE, such as pool type, contains high silica content and often heavy metals such as lead. Non-food grade DE can cause silicosis (a type of permanent lung damage from fibroid build up in the lungs) as well as lung cancer. Therefore, anything other than high quality food DE should never be used for animal or landscaping purposes.
  5. elaineinspain
    I would leave out the Diatomaceous Earth as it can kill the good critters (insects) in the Deep Litter and prevent successful decomposition and composting.
      aef1000, Liz7 and hooktontravel like this.
    1. hooktontravel
      it can also be really bad for the birds' air sacs. i think it's only approved as an anti-caking additive for feed. I know lots of folks use it for bug prevention but it is very low effectiveness and high inhalation risk for humans AND the animals. really bad for your lungs!!
  6. TexasTurkeyMama
    We always seemed to find uncomposted pine shavings when we were digging out a layer for the garden. We switched to coastal hay and we also have to help with the turning of the litter. We don't see the shavings anymore.
      Ranchwithaview and starryhen like this.
  7. cwren
    Has anyone added fall leaves to the litter? I've seen chickens sifting through leaves and they seemed very happy.
      mumofsix and Moma6poms like this.
    1. elaineinspain
      I put autumn leaves in the coop when I have them. I've noticed it encourages the chickens to sift through and turn the deep litter :)
      9876 and MysticUniKitty like this.
    2. dadeo
      I collect leaves in the fall from my friends and neighbors and store them to use throughout the winter as litter - no ill effects, except that they are less absorbent than straw and shavings, so I need to add it a bit more often.

      I like the DE idea - I use it as a dewormer for other livestock, but it seems like a good preventative here, too. Thanks!
  8. Ankhdad
    This is a great piece!
    I have been using this method for several years now and LOVE it. I have played with the mix from time to time. Currently using a hay, pine shavings, and..Stall Dry! Keep it mixed every few days just by walking in it. Gets changed every 4/5 months and the best part, no smell.
    Would highly recommend this method.
      9876 and aef1000 like this.
    1. Pawpaw&Mawmaw
      Hello! how's the moister in the coop during the winter?
    2. Ankhdad
      I live in NW Ontario where are winters are very cold (-30 C). My coop is 10'x15'. I keep the upper 4 vents open about 3-4 inches all winter and that seems to keep the moisture under control. I also use the Stall dry under their roost which makes for easy clean up.
      I also keep the mixture 'fluffed' up every week.
    3. ChickenyChickeny
      wait, is Stall Dry a thing you add to the bedding, or did you just mean it keeps the stall/coop dry?
  9. SuperK
    Wonderful article! I was sure that letting the coop cleaning "go" for months at a time would mean horrendous smells and unsanitary conditions, but wow! We got hooked on this after JoAnn and I visited a farm down the road a piece that had 200 chickens in a Deep Litter coop that was a delight to be in. We have just started this method ourselves here in Hawaii and the high humidity here isn't defeating the wonderful benefits to this style of coop care. The smell of the chickens in the coop is markedly reduced (almost zero) and the lack of poo smell results in lower numbers of flies. Once we got the DLM in place in the coop, most of our chicken odor issues are now in the run due to the high rainfall mixing with the little dirt we have, and the chickens manure. This method requires the litter to stay dry to keep it's odor absorbing ability so monitoring water systems and keeping the rain out is very important. Due to an over active bout with Chicken Math, we are enlarging our coop and run area and will be enclosing the entire space with roofing so we can keep the run dry for a modified DLM system. We are going to be using a method called the Korean Natural Farming system. This method is a modified DLM in that we apply, use and encourage the beneficial natural bacterial flora that attack the fresh stinky manure and it's odor causing bits and convert them into a more inert form decreasing the smells in minutes. There are a few things to know before starting this method, but once started it is an easy way to be able to spend more time with the birds and less time cleaning.
      starryhen and GenevieveHad like this.
    1. Karen Miely
      Sounds interesting. Where can I read about the Korean system?
      9876 and Feathers Brady like this.
  10. cra-zchicknlady
    This method is a lifesaver during the winter months! I don't do it during the summer because of the heat it puts off. We do a thick layer of alfalfa hay, then pine shavings on top, and add more pine shavings as it becomes necessary. Then in the spring, onto the compost heap!
      Ketty Ash and flwrldy like this.
  11. Lady of McCamley
    Further...DE is not a good choice for the DLM method as it inhibits the microbes necessary for the good composting within DLM.
      elaineinspain and EclecticLadyy like this.
  12. The Yakima Kid
    I use cheap landscaping soft wood chips (NOT bark mulch) in the run where it also slowly decomposes. I use a blend of pine and cedar shavings in the coop - cedar shavings are not a problem for chickens - talk to the poultry professors in the animal science department at Oregon State University where regional chicken farmers have used them without problems for decades.

    I'm not all that fond of DE because it can cause respiratory problems, so in my run I simply use agricultural or stall lime (the kind that doesn't burn), and sprinkle it over then rake the shavings to mix them up. I have gone more than a year without changing the run out. I tend to do the coop more often because the coop I have is essentially only large enough for roosting and laying.
      Liz Birdlover and Questor like this.
    1. Liz Birdlover
      I have coops with wooden floors, painted with a polyurethane so they don't get saturated. I've been using pine and cedar wood chips on the floor. I've been reading about the DLM and some add lactobacillus and PDZ, too...what do you think of those?
      Liz7 likes this.
  13. itsbob
    I would assume DL method is similar to the gravel on the bottom of fishtank, or how a septic tank works.. In both you never 100% clean out or replace what's there. A fishtank you normally don't change out more than 30% of the water, or overclean the gravel as you get rid of all the good bacteria the tank worked long and hard on building.

    I would assume (i'm new to entire chicken thing), if using the DL method, you would do the same. Never replace more than a 1/3 to 2/3 of the litter that way there is always a good base of good bacteria already present and you aren't starting all over again. If you replace 100% you go back to zero beneficial bacteria, and your flock has to adjust, and their immunities will degrade.
  14. Wee Farmer Sarah
    Good article. This is my first winter with my flock and I started using DLM in early November when the temps dipped into the teens. I've been adding fresh shavings, lime & DE occasionally, but I think I will increase the amounts and frequency since there's still some aroma. Thanks again for the pointers.
      9876 likes this.
  15. Compost King
    My favorite Method but you better treat the litter for pests, I had either a lice or a mite problem in one coop. Easy to take care of but even easier to prevent.
      Grits&Eggs likes this.
    1. Grits&Eggs
      Here in Florida, I get ants galore build up, tried this method and had to stop :-( because of the insects!
      ScarletinaVixen likes this.
  16. Koitoy
    I have a wooden floor in my little chicken barn. I use a whole bale of shavings and a whole bale of straw in the winter. In the summer, I just use shavings. I scrape everything out in the spring and fall. The only time I have a problem with odor is in the winter. I live in Mn so the girls are in all winter. They dont like -40 below windchill ruffing up their tail feathers! Lol
      Christy0445 likes this.
  17. Grits&Eggs
    i have had trouble the first time I tried/ using this method, maybe I will give it another try, i like the idea of cleaning only once a month vs week. Lately, I have been out there daily pulling the mats out (since I don't like looking or smelling the poop) but Sweet PDZ allowed me a weekly schedule... but monthly, think of all the trouble I could get into :) with all that free time....
      9876 likes this.
  18. Itzlinda
    I am rather new to chickens. What I have done seems to be working great. I used Pine shavings and construction grade sand and some PDZ. I have had this down for about 2 months and there is no smell and is working well. Thanks for all the great info on this site:)
      decooper likes this.
    1. MROO
      Did you mix your shavings and sand or layer them in?
  19. MROO
    DON'T USE CEDAR! It's toxic to chickens!
      Iditarod likes this.
  20. MROO
    Question about Deep Litter Method (DLM) and diatomaceous earth (DE.) We use DLM in our coop - a converted playhouse/sandbox - and were warned against using DE because it kills the beneficial bugs and bacteria that break down the litter (and create heat in the winter.) Does anybody have a good "scoop" on the "poop?"
      Liz7 likes this.
    1. View previous replies...
    2. Liz7
      Which kind of floor do you use? I have heard that the floor in the coop and run must be normal earth floor. I'm about to built their forever coop and I really want to use this method correctly, so that it works. If it's not in contact with eath, then it might not compost, just dry at it's best. The method is called Korean something.
    3. Taliasun
      I've also heard that the DE can act as an inhaled irritant. Any respiratory problems?
    4. toomanyfowltocount
      Responding to Liz7, we have a wooden floor that we covered with linoleum (to protect it from rot). I use the DLM and it composts just fine. I don't use pine shavings though. Due to it being more cost effective (I have a 8x16ft coop) I use bermuda hay (a big bale for me costs $5 and we have livestock so we buy in bulk)
      And DE is actually good for the birds (to take internally), I mix it in with my birds food one a month as a natural parasite preventative, along with an herb blend I get online. As long as it's food grade, it's fine. Even people can (and do) take it internally for health issues. When putting it in the coop for fly control just make sure you wear a mask and your birds aren't in there until after you have mixed it into your bedding and let it settle. I've used it with the DLM and mine composts fine. Then again, it might have something to do with humidity too. We live in Texas so that helps break things down. If we were in the desert it might be different ;)
  21. ChicChaser
    Thanks for sharing, love seen it mentioned but until reading this post I didn't understand.
      TheSavage1 likes this.
  22. JDisme
    Best way to go! If you have a door that goes all the way to the floor, tack in a board about 10+ inches high in front of it. It keeps the mess in!
      Liz Birdlover likes this.
  23. Linda V
    Just curious as to WHY anyone with chickens would use "food grade" DE instead of the Chicken Grade DE which not only has DE in it, but a certain amount of ash wood! I put some under their nests and then every day, I stir the wood shavings with the DE so the nest stays airy and fluffy....better to lay on, better to keep birds warm! We consume DE ourselves each day but it is human grade only of course. The Chicken-grade DE is inexpensive and comes in a handy, plastic, pour or sift screwed on lid and I keep it outside by the coop!
    I also put some on the special grade sand in the bottom (ground) level of their 2-story coop so when they dust bathe in it...the DE is going into their feathers! This way, when they groom themselves, they are consuming small amts too - which kills/prevents internal and external parasites! It's a win/win for everyone! My coop, which includes the nesting area, roosting area and the downstairs are is 100% free of bugs - especially ants!
    On a side note...I am beginning to wonder if my two hens are the ONLY HENS in the world who do NOT poop in the coop! We've had them 5 months now and they never used the bathroom in the lower area - but then they stopped about 5 weeks ago - from using the bathroom anywhere in the entire coop! Figure that one out!!
    I also put 2" of that special sand for chickens with the DE in it under their roosting perches to kill pests.
    Any one ever heard of hens who do not poop in their coop at all??? :)
      MissNiss likes this.
    1. Liz7
      I read an article about it that convinced me my 4 kilos DE are not really what i wanted for my garden, my pets o myself. Google and you'll find it. what concern me the most is the amount I already used and it landed in the compost. As much as I do not want pest to attack my pets, I do not want o harm beneficial and precious insects that live in my garden, not only the worms that work on my compost, but any kind of flying insect could also be affected. So, pesticides are not good either, but at least, with some of them, their effect is just for a while, meanwhile, DE never loses it's effect, some say once is wet it loses it's effectiveness, but we just do not know how much it cuts my good creatures in my garden. How will my compost will quickly turn into good earth if I kill those bugs too. It's a difficult decision. I bought DE and I will not buy it anymore. I will use it in emergency cases, but I'll always try to use something else first. I don't want to destroy the good together with the bad permanently, since DE will always remain sharp and cutting in one year or in 100 years.
  24. rngrbill
    Love the DLM. Started using it in MA for my flock of 6 and now in KY with my flock of 8. I also use a poop board under the roost and this keeps most of the Poop out of the litter. I has 1" sides on it so holds quite a bit. Usually clean out 2 -3 times a year depending on condition.
      9876 likes this.
  25. birdman55
    try using zeolite or keeps the smells down and works great. tsc has it and most of your feed stores should carry it
      9876 likes this.
  26. Lady of McCamley
    I find the pine shavings work a lot better where I live...but that is the wet NW so I have trouble with mold more than dust. The pine shavings keep the smell much better as well as compost a lot better and keep the mud under control much better. The straw sits on top and does not mix well and gets soggy leading to sour smell.
      Liz Birdlover likes this.
  27. Phoenixxx
    I use whatever I can rake up from the yard, such as leaves, grass clippings and moss. A month ago when the trees finished "leaving" and the moss was too wet to use in their nests I bought a bale of hay. Naturally, a good portion of that has since wound up on the floor. Every few days I rake everything back towards the back of the coop (under the roosts). Now, I have not "cleaned" my coop since september or october and so far, so good! The hay actually smells really nice and it doesn't contain any harmful oils/vapours like pine and cedar shavings do. Despite living in a damp environment (atlantic coast - literally!) moisture has not been an issue for me yet. I have 18 birds in a 6x8x8 wooden building with a dirt floor.
      joyandkids1 likes this.
  28. Gemoriah
    I came across this on youtube about Korean Natural Farming - Lacto Bacillus, this added to a deep litter method eliminated all smell from our coop.
      Liz7 likes this.
  29. RoseMarie1
    I'm also using DLM and it's amazing how the poop disappears in the stuff. Totally amazing! LOVE IT! Although I do not use DE in mine because I want to keep the good bugs in mine.
      SpringDaleChickenLady likes this.
  30. brushfloss
    I use the deep litter method and have since my flock of 10 moved into the coop out of the brooder. They have been in the coop for 5 months. I use DE with pine shavings and I also mix in Sweet PDZ every 2 weeks. There is no smell, the bedding is dry and no bugs. I am not going to clean out until the spring as I see no need to at this point. I add new pine shavings as is necessary and keep the bedding at a level of about 6 inches. My poop board under the roost keeps most of the dropping from getting into the litter, but "it" happens.
      Kaywieny likes this.
    1. SpringDaleChickenLady
      You want the poop in litter!! That's what makes the compost great!
  31. armorfirelady
    No reason to use DE. Just add different kinds of bedding material. I use grass clippings, leaves, weeds, pine needles.....whatever is free around my house. I also bag them up to use all winter. Once a week i may stir the DL to get the poop mixed around. Right now they have a dirt base with a little shavings in it. The poop dries & breaks down really fast with no use of DE. There is no smell and no flies. I also have plenty of ventilation even around the perimeter of the coop so that helps keep it dry. So easy to do and great fro the ground underneath, the hens and my garden in the spring :)
      Jan in the Pines likes this.
  32. chicknnugget
    I tried sand in the bottom of my coop. Bad Idea! It got really smelly, and needs to be cleaned everyday. DLM is way easier and a lot less smelly.
      SpringDaleChickenLady likes this.
  33. pumphousehill
    I've been using the deep layer method since last fall and it works great! The hens, and now baby chicks, are constantly stirring it themselves! I never have to do it for them. I have to hang my feeder higher and put a wooden box upside down under it for them to step up to the feeder, because they would fill it with straw and pine shavings as they are scratching for bugs. I also occasionally throw in some scratch (cracked corn and seeds) for them to find. Even if I don't they still stir it up, looking for bugs. My later is actually one shrink wrapped bundle of pine shavings and one small bale of alfalfa (there was no straw at the farm store that day) and it has nicely filled my coop floor with about 6 inches of layer. I assume I will have to add new material more often, once my 8 chicks are bigger. The wonderful part is that there is no smell. The only time it started to smell like urine was when the hens went broody. I highly recommend this method!
      EclecticLadyy likes this.
  34. LeggyLeghorn
    Good information, interesting method.
  35. Plain Jules
    This is what I want to do once I get my coop up and running properly!
  36. 9876
    Love this method! I will try it myself.. thanks!
  37. NanaKat
    I have used DLM for 20 plus years. My hen house is an 11x 12 ncorner of our barn. The HH has a dirt floor. The brooder room is a 11 X 12 concrete floor room attached to the HH. Wood shavings in the brooder room get swept into the HH about once a month. The HH gets hay, pine needles, and leaves in addition to the wood shavings. Pelleted lime helps with any odor in the roost box where poo accumulates overnight. The contents of the roost box gets hauled out twice a year to the compost behind the barn. Clean out in the HH is done in the spring and is used for mulch in the garden.
  38. Koitoy
    I have a wooden floor in my little chicken barn. I use a whole bale of shavings and a whole bale of straw in the winter. In the summer, I just use shavings. I scrape everything out in the spring and fall. The only time I have a problem with odor is in the winter. I live in Mn so the girls are in all winter. They dont like -40 below windchill ruffing up their tail feathers! Lol
  39. Koitoy
    I have a wooden floor in my little chicken barn. I use a whole bale of shavings and a whole bale of straw in the winter. In the summer, I just use shavings. I scrape everything out in the spring and fall. The only time I have a problem with odor is in the winter. I live in Mn so the girls are in all winter. They dont like -40 below windchill ruffing up their tail feathers! Lol
  40. Koitoy
    I have a wooden floor in my little chicken barn. I use a whole bale of shavings and a whole bale of straw in the winter. In the summer, I just use shavings. I scrape everything out in the spring and fall. The only time I have a problem with odor is in the winter. I live in Mn so the girls are in all winter. They dont like -40 below windchill ruffing up their tail feathers! Lol
  41. Koitoy
    I have a wooden floor in my little chicken barn. I use a whole bale of shavings and a whole bale of straw in the winter. In the summer, I just use shavings. I scrape everything out in the spring and fall. The only time I have a problem with odor is in the winter. I live in Mn so the girls are in all winter. They dont like -40 below windchill ruffing up their tail feathers! Lol
  42. nerfworthy
    Great guide! I have a question. My coop has a wood floor, so would it work to put down a thin layer of dirt first before adding bedding?
    1. toomanyfowltocount
      We have a wood floor in our coop. An easy fix for this was to buy linoleum flooring that you peel and stick to it before putting anything down. Keeps the wood protected from rot and a lot easier to keep clean too since the litter/compost slides off of the smooth surface. We got ours from Lowes for $1.00 for each 18x18inch piece.
    2. Hannahlee
      I put pvc sheeting down first, before adding pine shavings and industrial hemp. I didn't glue it down and can easily remove it if I have to. I believe it is used for tub surrounds and was purchased at Menards for something like $18 for a 4'x8' sheet.
      9876 and MysticUniKitty like this.
  43. Henhouse1
    What is food grade DE?
    1. Breannamay4
      food grade Diatmatious earth. Its basically ground up fossils. Available at your local chicken store or mudouchs.
  44. traceygirl07
    I have a coop made of pallet boards so my chickens use the the space where the boards are joined as extra roost. This means they frequently poop in this area too. Some falls in the litter floor but some stays on the walls of the coop. Aside from using a small rake and hoe to remove it I have not found a more successful alternative .DLM works for the floor of coop great. Any suggestions on how I can fix this problem. Only think I know is to cover interior walls with plywood and build additional roost.
    1. NanaKat
      You can staple gun cardboard or feed sacks on to your pallets and build a roost box. It will contain the concentration of nightly poop. Add pelleted lime and either wood shavings or leaves for the birds to scratch thru and mix the material inside the box. Remove the compost more frequently than the rest of your deep litter area as the box will build up quicker.
  45. Jesse Diaz
    new to raising chickens. would this work on on a wooden slat wood floor. My coop is off the ground about 2 feet. I am going to be moving them out to the coop in a few days. i have bought pine shavings. TS said to lay a trap down so i don;t lose shaving. would like to use this method. thank you for any help
    1. elaineinspain
      it works on pretty much every type of floor. I have a concrete floor and it works, albeit the composting of the litter is slower than with an earth floor.
  46. anunusualwoman
    is there something i can use instead of pine (or cedar) shavings? I have an allergic reaction to pine and a lesser extent to cedar.
    1. NanaKat
      Collect fall leaves and grass clippings that have not been sprayed with chemicals.
    2. toomanyfowltocount
      We use hay (bermuda grass) because we live in Texas. It's a thin grass, composts nicely, and a big bale out here is $5. The chickens love to forage through it whenever I put a new layer down. A lot more cost effective than the pine shavings for us. We also have livestock so we buy a lot of it ;)
      MarthaTheRooster and starryhen like this.
    3. Hannahlee
      Industrial hemp absorbs and does not smell. Pricier than pine shavings, but it works really well. I have read that some people also use sand and sift it to remove the chicken poo.
  47. Robert G
    I really enjoyed reading this article, but the only DE I could find was at Tractor Supply. Is this what is needed to mix with the wood shavings? It says "Diatomaceous Earth Food Chemical Powder"
    1. Taliasun
      Amazon has food grade DE
      starryhen likes this.
  48. Liz Birdlover
    I've been using this method, but we've had so much rain this winter, and after 2 months of cold, below freezing weather, we had a few days of 60 degrees weather, weird. Anyway, it got a little stinky with ammonia smell, so I cleaned it all out, then put the stall dry Sweet PDZ on the swept, wood floor 1st, then added fresh wood chips. It did help a lot. About a month of freezing weather passed, then we got another warm, wet, rainy week, and I noticed it smelled a bit, and the litter was nasty, so I cleaned it all out again, repeated the PDZ and fresh wood chips. So while it is lasting longer with the PDZ, I don't think the deep little method is working so great, and I'm wondering why. The chickens scratch and move the litter quite a bit. If they didn't, I'd simply remove the poo clumps when I collect daily eggs, but every day it's mixed around. It usually is not this wet, usually not this rainy that why it's not working as well? I also may have too many chickens in this small coop, but I'm definitely moving and prepping a 12x24 shed, currently storing unnecessary stuff, (the building itself is a very nice shed) when we get more cooperative weather. Shed moving and mud do not mix! Once I get it moved and set up, it will be their new coop with plenty of room for them. Any thoughts on dealing with rainy, humid weather?
    1. Lady of McCamley
      Rain is not an issue with DLM, at least not in my Oregon, but DLM works best with dirt contact. It needs the microbes from the soil to work best. When it gets too poo covered, add more bedding. If in a wpod floor, adding soil works.
  49. ChickenyChickeny
    I'm trying to do this, the 'cover up the poop with new wood shavings', and my chickens scratch around and stir it up (sometimes they scratch and stir it up so much there is heaps in a corner and bare floor in another LOL), but I can't tell if it is decomposing and all that.
    1. Ketty Ash
      It's slowly composting and creating heat. Trust what nature does.
      Liz7 and ChickenyChickeny like this.
  50. ThatParrotLady
    Does this work with hay? I get more compacted mud and poop with Hay and the chickens but if there's a better method to not having to clean the coop all by myself every two weeks I am down for this.
    1. Ketty Ash
      I only use shavings because at the end of winter, it will go in my co post pile.
      hempsteadjb likes this.

BackYard Chickens is proudly sponsored by: