Little Red Coop

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    Little Red Coop
    (On a Farm Down in Indiana)

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    For years, my birds lived in a tiny, 4x8x4 foot tall coop that was as miserable for us to work with as it was crowded for them. There were so many flaws in this coop that it’s unbelievable how long we put up with it. Worst of all, though, the coop door was left open 24/7 because we just didn’t know any better. This was a tragedy waiting to happen, and sure enough, it did. Early July, 2009, after four years without issues, we had our first predator attack. The door had rotted away enough from sitting open that fixing it was going to be an issue. The coop would need to be replaced.

    The next year, 2010, my parents bought for me an 8x10 shed kit as a birthday present and we set about putting it together. Regrettably, I have no pictures of the build. We simply followed the instructions and slapped it together, after which it was painted, modified for its chicken occupants, and then put into use as a coop. Originally, the floor plan left little to be desired. The nests, straw bales, and feed bins took up monumental amounts of floor space, and the hens simply refused to use the back 4 or 5 feet of the coop because of how the perches were set up with the lowest one at 1 foot in the front:


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    So we rearranged. We rebuilt the nests, the roosts, and changed to sand as their bedding. The feed bins were moved out into a little 3x6x4 foot tall storage shed, also known as the feed shed, which is the little beige building to the right in the very first picture on this page. Here is how the layout ended up after all this:


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    With the roosts as they are now, the hens are more willing to go underneath them, and it makes the coop seem roomier on the inside. They are also able to go underneath the nests, though I had to block the very back to prevent them from laying eggs back there.


    Here are a couple pictures of the inside of the coop before the modifications in 2013 and 2014.

    The perches, as they were when they were built (they are the same now, but there's more chicken poo than was shown in this picture, of course :lol: ). They are 3 feet long and there are at total of 9 spaced at about a foot apart when measured from the center of each perch:


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    The old nests. The buckets are convenient to pull out and hose off if any messes are made when someone steps on an egg or has an 'accident'. I have extras to pop back into place while others dry out after being cleaned. This design held 9 buckets as nests, but three of them were beneath the solid landing and harder than heck to get to, and so they ended up being blocked off and took up lots of floor space. That's the main reason for me replacing this setup with the new one, as is seen way, way below in the 2014 changes section. These are the six that were mainly used with this setup:


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    And I thought I had more pictures of the old coop, but I guess not! :lol: So on to the next modifications that were made to the coop!




    2013: The Coop Addition

    Of course, as it happens with chicken math, the coop was soon too small for the number of occupants I wanted it to hold. In 2013, we got the supplies together and began the coop addition build!

    Most of the addition was built as we went along with minimal planning ahead of the time. We pretty much had the basics of building down at that point. Studs, siding, roof, door, done. But first came the foundation. I decided to have a dirt floor in the addition to allow the girls to dustbathe year round, so predator protection was key. We ended up digging out the entire area for the addition, setting two layers of cinderblocks in as the bottom portion of the wall, and filling the corners with concrete to sink in the bolts that would hold the wooden part of the wall down.


    The building of the walls went pretty smoothly. We began with something like a skeleton, which slowly evolved into the shape we desired:


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    Rafters went up:


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    The windows were framed in at this point, giving me my first look at the view my girls would have from their extended home. They have five windows total in this coop addition:


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    Then came a solid roof:


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    And finally, we started putting siding up:


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    The human door, which you can see in that last picture, is a little more than 4 feet tall, roughly the height of the wall without the rafters. I’ve already hit my head on it a number of times—but I can live with that. It’s about 3 feet wide and has a 2x2 stop on the inside to keep it from swinging too far in.

    The opening for the chicken door is about 12x14 inches, and we put it beneath the window on the wall opposite from the human door (visible in the first of the four siding pictures above) to save us some time in framing it in. It opens out into the chicken yard, while the human door opens away from the chicken yard.



    Painting! Don't mind the drips--it's just a chicken coop, after all! ;) The dirt's pretty much covered any splatters up at this point, anyway.


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    The last big step was the predator proofing. The floor was most important to me. To keep out diggers, we laid out a layer of hardware cloth over the floor and attached it to the lowest part of the wooden wall using inch-long screws and washers:


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    After the hardware cloth went down, I filled the base with gravel as some added protection, and put 8x16 inch pavers over the seams, just in case:


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    Then, it was filled with the dirt that had been dug out of it before:


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    Hardware cloth was also applied to the windows:


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    And to the vents:


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    These vents are secured with hardware cloth and can be covered for wintertime or opened in the heat of summer:


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    We also can close the windows to let light in without letting cold air in. The vent that runs the length of the 8-foot wall is open year round for adequate air exchange with the vents that exist in the original coop.


    And after shingling the roof, here is the finished project:


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    The human door on the addition:


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    The chicken door:


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    We got two latches for the chicken door, one to hold it open as the above picture shows, and one to hold it closed:


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    A carabiner fits through a hole on the latch to keep it from being opened in the night by something unsightly:

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    The completed inside of the addition. (It's kind of hard to see, but where the hen is sitting in the lower right corner of the picture is the step to the opening to the original part of the coop.)

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    And finally, the opening from the original coop to the addition. There isn't actually a door there, but I put that fence panel over it and had a broody hen in there, as was seen in the above picture. In 2017, we did add a door here that can keep the addition separated off for new birds or broodies, but is out of the way when opened.

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    For an idea of how it was set up, here is a basic floor plan. The dashes through the walls show where the windows are, the angled lines are doors, and the reddish line in the wall is the opening between the original coop and the addition:


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    Changes in 2014

    Here's what we've been up to this year! First thing, we added another pop door to the coop addition and fenced in a sizable area as a second run. I use this for grazing when the girls aren't able to free-range as much in the day, or as a separate yard for new birds I'm trying to introduce into the flock.


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    Next, we finally got my new nest boxes built! These are still cat litter buckets, which I can pull out and hose off if they get soiled in some way. The shelves they sit on are mostly reused materials. All that extra space underneath both allows for more room if the girls are snowed in this winter and discourages laying underneath! The shelves hold up to 8 boxes, but I like to keep it at 6 or 7.


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    Last, as you can probably see in the last picture with the nest boxes, we've switched from sand to shavings as bedding! I made this decision after some thought. Though sand is so much easier for me, it was so dusty that I was having to wear a ventilator in order to not cough for hours after cleaning the coop, and I had to shower and change clothes after cleaning it as well! It occurred to me as I was cleaning it one day that if the sand is so bad on my lungs, it couldn't be too great on the birds' lungs! Shavings take a lot more work to clean, but are so much cleaner overall and smell so much fresher than sand. It's a give and take scenario, but I feel it's healthier for the hens to be on shavings, and that's more important to me than what is most convenient for me.

    So, here is the updated floor plan. I moved a feeder into the addition area and have two feed pans outside during the day, rather than having one up in the main area of the coop. This spreads the feed out a bit and lets some of the younger and lower-ranking birds have a chance to eat. The white area of the floor in the main coop is where I have no bedding, and the dark brown line there is the shape of my kick board, which keeps bedding in the coop even if both doors are open and allows me to better bed the floor under all of the perches.


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    Changes in 2016
    Possibly my favorite addition to the coop happened this year--the deck! After having some hawk attacks claim a few hens' lives, we decided the girls really needed an 'outside' space that was more predator safe. Rather than fight with securing underneath a dirt floor as we did in the coop addition, we decided to build a deck on the the front of the coop--a whopping 16 foot by 8 foot deck, complete with a solid roof, hardware cloth walls (extra secured with 6 foot welded wire fence over the bottom portion of it!), and doors to leave from the north, south, or west side of it! This addition not only made my coop much more comfortable for my flock during times where they must be kept inside for their own safety, but it allowed for much more ventilation through the entire coop year round because I no longer have to close the big front doors of the coop for predator security!

    The following few pictures are just quick thumbnail images of the build progress. Don't mind our mess--it was a work in progress! Click to see them up close!

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    Here's a few shots of the completed deck! As close as I can get to a full view of it. We used tar paper to cover the roof until we could finish it. Unfortunately, the tar paper blew off almost immediately when we had bad weather, so the roof will be getting fixed up again soon (I hope!). We put a 2x4 edge around the base of it (except for at the doors) so that I could put some bedding down in this area during the winter for some extra comfort. The south and west walls also get covered in clear plastic sheeting for the winter, keeping out the snow and wind and allowing for a warming greenhouse effect on those few sunny winter days.

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    A look from inside the old coop. In the background, you can see our temporary fix for hawk cover, a shade cover that was on clearance at TSC. As you can also likely see, it was on clearance for a reason. :rolleyes:

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    One problem we faced was getting the two doors that led from the deck to the yard to close securely because the locks had to be on the inside in order to be accessible. Our usual locks, swivel hasps and carabiners, were letting the doors move too much when latched. Our solution was simple--since the locks were on the inside anyway, we used the same type of hasp but without the swiveling loop. A carabiner holds it securely closed without letting the door move much at all when pulled on.

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    Because I'm so skilled at it ( :lol: :rolleyes: ), here is another floor plan I drew of the current layout. Some things (like feed barrels and pans) have moved around since this, but you get the idea.

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    We've now been through one winter with this, and I absolutely love this addition! I didn't have to do much snow shoveling at all, and we had a few occasions where predators tried to get themselves a chicken dinner without success thanks to my girls being closed in on their new deck. Hands down, my favorite addition to my coop!



    Changes in 2017
    This year, we're mostly fixing roofs on various buildings and working on other things that need a little help after all these years. However, we also are putting together rooster pens for all those extra roosters I want to keep, but that don't get along in the main flock with my main two roosters, Reuben and Winter. Here's a look at what we've finished so far. Like the deck, once the pen has been moved to its final location, I will be taking welded wire fencing and covering the hardware cloth with it, just as an added precaution. The welded wire fence will also bend out across the ground as an anti-dig skirt along the edge. We plan to build one more of these, and use the framework from another old pen to make a third one. Dimensions are 8x4 feet on the outside, separated into two 4x4 foot pens. Tarps will be added for more shelter from wind and the weather.

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    The Chicken Yard

    The chicken yard is approximately 50x100 feet. The fence is welded wire, 6 feet tall on the front half and 4 feet tall on the back half. I don’t have many pictures of the chicken yard because I rarely focus on anything but the chickens when I'm out there! However, here is what I have—the back section:

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    One thing that has been a staple of our chicken yard since before it was a chicken yard is the boat. The boat, as one might assume, is a boat that was old and leaky, and so it was put out in what was a dog yard at the time. The chickens inherited the boat and the Dogloo beneath it, and it has become a shelter and a place to put feed under if it rains:

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    This big old cedar tree provides some shelter as well, and the hens frequently duck under its low branches when hawks and vultures fly over. This is a view from beneath:

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    The only other thing worth noting is the chick yard. This is a convenient little area that I can just throw some fence up around if I have youngsters that need to go out. Then, when they’re old enough, the fence comes down, but the posts remain until next time. There is a makeshift tarp tent, a doghouse, and an ugly little shelter I slapped together with some scrap wood and an old rabbit hutch tray for the chicks to duck into if they need to. I also put up a perch or two for the little ones to play on. The chick yard was retired with the addition of the mini-yard, as mentioned in the 'Changes in 2013' section. I still sometimes throw some old fence up here if I need birds separated for one reason or another, though.

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    What Needs Work and What I Would Do Differently

    So finally, we reach the point of the page where I talk about what I would do differently. The first thing that comes to mind is the old section of the coop needs more light and ventilation. Windows can be added. The problem with adding ventilation is that the perches go up so high that it's difficult to add ventilation without adding drafts. Likely, if we do add more ventilation, it will be all the way up in the peak of the roof.

    The run has always been a problem. Water flows right through it when there's a lot of rain, and the steps to the coop keep getting washed away. One thing that should always be considered before building a coop--which I clearly didn't think of--is where water flows and sits on the land. As is, I'm going to have to put a drain or something through the area where the coop sits so that water can flow through there without pooling or washing away the coop steps.

    Along with this, the coop addition is somewhat leaky and flooded last winter during a warm spell. And then again in the spring when the snow melted off... Water comes right through the cracks between the cinderblocks. This will need fixed before winter rolls around!

    And, of course, there's never, ever, ever enough space! Chicken math is a killer--the afflicted are always going to want to add more birds! Definitely build it as big as you can afford--even if you don't ever add more birds later on, you'll be grateful for all that extra space!








    And that’s that. Thanks for checking out my Little Red Coop! :frow

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  1. Little Peep
    Nice job I am getting some more chickens next spring I'm always looking for coop ideas thanks! :D
  2. boskelli1571
    Nicely done!
  3. Brookliner
    Love your coop. Similar in size to my coop the 8x10 part.
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  5. Leahs Mom
    Thanks! Did you use the same roost that you used as a ladder and just set it up parallel to the floor or did you build a whole new set?
  6. pipdzipdnreadytogo
    Sorry I didn't see your comment sooner, Leahs Mom!

    The long boards on the perches are 2x4x10s that are unmodified (so they're about 10 feet, 1 inch long). The perches themselves are 3 feet long and spaced about 15 inches when measured at the center of the perch. This seems close when the birds are perched, but they don't poo on one another or on the lower roosts, so it works out fine.
  7. Leahs Mom
    I just read this tonight. Very nicely written and well illustrated. I have a question. When you re-did the roosts along the left side, can you tell me how long they are? Also, how far apart. I am likely going to re-do my roosts also and was looking at doing them like you have. I just haven't figured out dimensions yet.

    Thanks...Love it ... very inspiring :D
  8. Whittni
    Looks great!
  9. CCCCCCCCHICKENS
    Looks awesome pipd!
  10. Too Fast
    Looks great. I like the outside area for your chickens to roam.
  11. Thunder Chicken
    Nice job Pip. Looks great!!!
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