grrrrrr, I hatched these sweet birds and still cannot tell of they are male or female. They are 17 weeks. They do not have any pointy saddle or hackle feathers yet. They are submissive to the chickens that are only 3 weeks older and bully them. Their combs are pink but have not protruded. First 4 photos are Poppet. last 4 photos are Pixiesticks.