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2 Birds Dead and another unwell

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Fraoch21, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.) The 2 dead were a cochin cockerel and a bantam orpington hen.I dont know how old they were as i only recently bought them. Cockerel looked old and the orpington looked quite young and both a normal weight. Unwell bird is a runner drake who is a year old.

    2) What is the behavior, exactly. Looked fine before death but the orpington never laid a single egg in the time i had her- may not have started laying for the season? Drake was fine then suddenly couldnt walk and when i picked him up he was shivering badly and there was discharge from his eyes and possibly from his nose(could just have been the rain). After taking him inside i noticed water dripping from his beak but it could just have been from when he was drinking.

    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms? 2 dead birds didnt show symptoms other than the orpington not laying. Drake hasnt been able to walk for 3 days

    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms? Not that ive seen

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma. Not that i can see

    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation. Only had the cockerel for a few days after buying him and the orpington since March. Drake Ive always had but recently had been locked in a pen with another duck. So not that i know apart from stress from being confined?

    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Dead birds were eating normally, drake hadnt been eating cause he couldnt get to the food and water. He's eating and drinking more now. Feeding them bruised barley and layers pellets.

    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Dead birds poop looked normal, orpington was covered in her own poop when we found her dead and stank of urine. Drake smells the same and his poop is really watery and green.

    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? I didnt have time to treat the birds that died and the drake is inside beside the fire to keep him warm with food and water near so he doesnt have to move.

    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? If the birds illness and the 2 deaths are related then we will go to a vet but if not I would like to try and get the drake better without getting a vet if its possible.

    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help. Dont know what to take a picture off? The drakes leg just hangs limp but he can move it slightly.

    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use Both dead birds were in pens of pairs with shelter and straw. After cockerel died the drake was put in the same pen the cockerel was in before but he is now beside the fire to keep him warm and dry.

    Edit; The drakes poop is more normal now but he cant breath properly, hes kinda breathing in then pausing then breathing out heavily
     
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  2. dawg53

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    I believe you are dealing with a respiratory disease. Baytril will treat respiratory diseases, but not cure them. Birds remain carriers for life and are contageous.
     
  3. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do you think that is what caused the others deaths or is this just the drake?
    If he remains contagious, does that mean i either destoy him or keep him in isolation to keep other birds from being infected?

    Edit; Could it be Newcastle disease? the symptoms look the same?
     
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  4. Fraoch21

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    COme to think of it, the cockerel that died sounded like he was having a bit of trouble breathing. Like he was gargling and wasnt crowing properly
     
  5. dawg53

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    I dont know about ducks, only chickens. Here's a link to respiratory diseases in poultry. If anything, I'd suspect coryza if there were a foul odor about the head area. Otherwise I'd suspect mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG.) Here's a couple of links for you to read if you wish. Scroll down in the first link and read about Coryza, then Mycoplasma Gallisepticum. The second link is all about Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (MG.)
    http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
    http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps034
     
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  6. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you for the links i dont think he has either of them. Any discharge there is from the eyes and nostrils is watery and he doesnt seem to have any swelling. And then theres still his leg[​IMG]
     
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  7. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sadly he's only getting worse and i cant buy Baytril in the uk. His breath is rattling now and he wheezing and coughing a lot. I tryed giving him a warm bath cause he smelt so bad but he's shivering again now. My parents are trying to persuade me to let them put him out his misery so sadly i think im going to have to agree [​IMG]
     
  8. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sadly we've decided to put him out his misery, hes now coughing up green sticky stuff and his eyes are watering even worse and he's stopped eating and drinking [​IMG]
     
  9. jeepguy982001

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    sorry for your troubles
     
  10. Fraoch21

    Fraoch21 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you, its ok, I just thought i would let anyone here who was reading the thread know whats happening
     

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