2 year silkie has blood in poop

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Country Girl Cheryl, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. Country Girl Cheryl

    Country Girl Cheryl Out Of The Brooder

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    I have a 2 year silkie hen that has been pooping blood today - she is also lethargic - crop does have food in it. Can anyone help me with a diagnosis - her name is Khloe and she is a very sweet splash color little girl. She also has a history of having respitory problems which are usually cured with VetX and a little nutria drench.
     
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  2. BettyBlueSilkie

    BettyBlueSilkie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    [​IMG] search "all silkie lovers welcome" on BYC and some silkie owners can help you
     
  3. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict

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    There are a few diseases that can cause blood in the stools, but coccidiosis is the most common. Lethargy, puffing up, ruffled feathers, poor appetite, and diarrhea are the most common symptoms, and blood will show up in 2 out the 9 strains of it. Corid (amprollium ) is the treatment in the US--1 tsp of powder or 2 tsp liquid in a gallon of water for 5-7 days. Treat all of the chickens with the sick one. Vitamins and probiotics or yogurt will be needed for a week after treatment.
     
  4. Country Girl Cheryl

    Country Girl Cheryl Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks for the reply- I treated the flock for coccidiosis last year - are they able to get it again?
     
  5. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict

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    They can get different strains--there are 9 in chickens--that they haven't developed immunity to yet. Sometimes they canbe brought in by new birds or on your feet or tires.
     
  6. ten chicks

    ten chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes,it is possible. Coccidiosis can be spread by wild birds,bringing into your area on your own clothes/shoes/hands/etc.adding new flock members. Most birds have some cocci in their small intestines,only becomes a problem if they have an overload. Chickens are only immune to the strains they have had prior exposure to,so it is possible for her to have an overload/outbreak. Cocci can kill very fast,but is easily controlled by Amprolium. Treating her for cocci will not harm her,but not treating if she has cocci could have dire consequences. You should see no more blood in approx 24-48 hours,she should start to improve in approx 3-4 days,if no improvement then it may be something else or a virulent strain that may need a stronger medication.
     
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  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Yes. Listed below are the doses recommended the mfg and the FDA

    The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid Powder is 1.5 teaspoons (4.536 grams).
    The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid liquid is 2 teaspoon.


    The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid Powder is 3/4 teaspoon (2.268 grams).
    The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid liquid is 1 teaspoon.


    The .006% dose for Corid Powder is 1/3 teaspoon (1.134 grams).
    The .006% dose for Corid liquid is 1/2 teaspoon.


    FDA recommendations:
    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149
    "Chickens
    Indications: For the treatment of coccidiosis.
    Amount: Administer at the 0.012 percent level in drinking water as soon as coccidiosis is diagnosed and continue for 3 to 5 days (in severe outbreaks, give amprolium at the 0.024 percent level); continue with 0.006 percent amprolium-medicated water for an additional 1 to 2 weeks."


    And this link has these instructions:
    http://www.drugs.com/vet/amprol-9-6-solution-can.html
    "Poultry - as Soon As Caecal Coccidiosis Is Diagnosed, Give 0.024% Amprolium In The Drinking Water For 5 To 7 Days. Continue The Treatment With 0.006% Amprolium Medicated Water For An Additional One To Two Weeks. No Other Source Of Drinking Water Should Be Available To The Birds During This Time."




    Amount of Amprolium (Corid or Amprol) liquid per 1/4 teaspoon
    • One 1/4 teaspoon = 120 mg
    • 1/2 teaspoon = 240 mg
    • 3/4 teaspoons = 360 mg
    • 1 teaspoon = 480 mg
    • 1 & 1/4 teaspoons = 600 mg
    • 1 & 1/2 teaspoons = 720 mg
    • 1 & 3/4 teaspoons = 840
    • 2 teaspoons = 960 mg

    There are 4.92892ml/teaspoon, but the numbers above were calculated using 5ml/teaspoon
    Here is what's in 1-10ml of the liquid
    • 1ml = 96mg
    • 2ml = 192mg
    • 3ml = 288mg
    • 4ml = 384mg
    • 5ml = 480mg
    • 6ml = 576mg
    • 7ml = 672mg
    • 8ml = 768mg
    • 9ml = 864mg
    • 10ml = 960mg


    1/2 teaspoon of 20% powder = 2.8125ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 270mg of amprolium.
    3/4 teaspoon of 20% powder = 4.21875ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 405mg of amprolium.
    1 teaspoon of 20% powder = 5.625ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 540mg of amprolium.
    1.5 teaspoons of 20% powder =8.4375ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 810mg of amprolium.
    1.75 teaspoons of 20% powder = 9.84375ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 945mg of amprolium.
    2 teaspoons of 20% powder = 11.25ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 1080mg of amprolium.




    More info here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818879/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing

    -Kathy
     
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  8. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Blood in poop can also be from other things like worms or disease. Can you post a picture of her poop?

    -Kathy
     
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  9. Country Girl Cheryl

    Country Girl Cheryl Out Of The Brooder

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    I am sorry to say we lost Khloe this morning - I feel so helpless - she just started showing signs of illness yesterday and now she is gone. I have posted a picture of her last poop this morning - I hope someone can tell me something so I can prevent this from happening again. Thanks for all your help - it's nice to know there are experienced people out there to give advice to us inexperienced chicken keepers.
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  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    So sorry for your loss. To me that looks like it could be blood from worms and/or infection, but that is just a guess. Can you the inside of her vent and see if maybe she has a stuck egg?

    -Kathy
     

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