Ok. I'm familiar with the whole 4ft/10ft rule of thumb. And I am aware of the different locations need different set up. And so on. I am familiar with free range (my grandfather always had chickens). I not so familiar with coops and runs (I assume the Run is the caged in area where they restricted from roaming?) so, I guess I'm looking for suggestions or even to be corrected... Here goes, 3 Coops and Runs. The Plan... -A- (1) I want to have layers, that are separated from males. (2) I want Meat/Reproduction. Most likely White Wyandottes (egg and meat). (3) Will be for a different breed(s) and for whatever idea surfaces between now and then. -B- Each number represents a separate coop/run (in case you didn't figure that out). Each coop will have two runs. Example...Day 1-Free range, Day 2&3-contained. (So that on every 3rd day each flock is allowed to free range. A double run will also help keep from turning grass into mud. -C- My original design is based on 12 chickens per flock. The coop was 8x8ft. (64 sqft) Each run is 16x12ft. (192 sqft) Does everyone consider this too little room, even if allowed to free range? It's not the space/land issue, it's a Money vs Material issue. I'm raising for personal use, and. I realise 12 layers are probably more than enough for a family of four but "it's better o be safe, than sorry" and not to mention loss due to predetors when allowed to free range.