4-5 Month Old Rooster - Having slight shaking fits, lethargic, not eating

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Razz3, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Razz3

    Razz3 Just Hatched

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    So I have a 4-5 month old Rooster, I don't exactly know his breed. He's black with a white afro and head, and an arched skull. It was natural, there were 3 others of the same breed that had it.
    Yesterday I noticed he was acting strange, but I didn't really see anything to show true sickness. I just went out today, and he was having a hard time walking or running from me. I grabbed him before he could get going, and this is what I've found:

    His head is shaking a bit, and he's holding it low. It keeps drooping like he's falling asleep.
    He has a completely empty crop save for a bit of the grit that we give them to help digest.
    He keeps moving his beak from side to side and clacking it like it's bothering him.
    He's really lethargic, doesn't want to move, and he keeps his eyes closed like he's trying to sleep. He only opens them when I bother him.
    He's stepping on his own feet, and it's tripping him up. He can't keep his legs apart right.
    His poop is really small, but solid and light brown with a dash of white there. It might be a bit too solid, like he was dehydrated?
    His waddle is much paler than normal, though it's still red.
    His breathing is a little bit congested, like he might have a cold? I'm not sure.
    He will suddenly stand up, and spread his wings, lowering his head, and just stand there for several seconds before sitting back down. Could he be seizing?
    He has his mouth open sometimes and just sits there
    He's falling to the left side the most, and forwards like he's top heavy.
    When he tries to eat, he half misses what he's trying to get.

    Everything else looks pretty normal with him, his feathers are well kept, his chirps sound normal, he doesn't have runny eyes or nose, there's no sour smell from his mouth to hint at Sour Crop... I've checked him for mites and lice, he doesn't have that, there's no poop stuck around his vent, he's not swollen anywhere. Here's just the other information I have just about him.

    He's 4-5 months old.
    He's been living outside with a Bantam Frizzle Coachin partner for about a month or so, though he's been going outside with two of the frizzles for over 2 months.
    After maybe 20 minutes inside with me dribbling olive oil and water down his throat, he's pecking a bit at my legs, and looking a bit more alert and interested in things.
    He's the biggest of the chicks, though he's smaller than all my hens except for one outside.
    I've fed him olive oil and water mixed together, maybe 10 dropperfuls?
    He's trying to eat a mash of their crumble, water, dried mealworms, and olive oil right now, and is getting a little bit down.
    He's sitting on my legs like he never does, and isn't moving away as much as normal.

    If anyone has any suggestions, that would be really great. His name is Clarus, and he's a very sweet boy that I want to save. I've had other adult chickens die of similar symptoms to what he's got, but this is the first time I'm trying to seek help.
     
  2. Razz3

    Razz3 Just Hatched

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    Anyone? I'm worried about him, he's really not acting right
     
  3. Razz3

    Razz3 Just Hatched

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    Does anyone have any ideas at all? I'm really worried about him.
    He's having a hard time pulling in his wings, and lays on his belly, legs slightly under him, head stretched forwards.

    He's a Polish, that's his breed.
     
  4. MrsBachbach

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    It could be a vitamin deficiency or disease. I would isolate him in a crate and try to keep feeding him. You might try some Vit E on him because many neuro symptoms can be related to Vit E deficiency or even Vit A. So if you have some Vit E capsule pop one down his throat, he will swallow. Then I would get to a Tractor Supply or feed store and look for something called Rooster Booster Poultry Cell. That's some good stuff for roosters, and give him some of that for a few days. Dose is on the bottle, pick up a syringe while you are there. If it's disease, (and there are many), you will just have to nurse him through it. The vitamins will help him the most. They do make some you can add to his water also. But I would isolate him for awhile.
     
  5. Razz3

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    Alright. Thank you, I'll try it. I pulled him inside today, but I'll have to find another crate for tonight because there are four chicks who go out in the day and have to come in at night.
    Thank you very much for helping. Hopefully the vitamins will help boost him.

    Could his being outside be limiting his vitamin intake at all?
     
  6. MrsBachbach

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    Could he have ingested anything poisonous? Or is he penned? Botulism can cause neuro symptoms too but it can kill them quick. I think an epsom salt flush is a remedy for that, You have to be able to tube him to do an epsom salt flush. Or if you have food grade activated charcoal, a tiny bit of that mixed with water and tubed into them absorbs toxins. But it has to be food grade, not like your charcoal grill kind.
     
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    MrsBachbach Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sometimes feeds go stale in a few months especially in hot weather. They lose their nutrients. Always check the manufacture date and try not to buy bags that are more than a few months old. Good idea to give vit/minerals in their water during hot months. Just can't always count on feed being fresh. I've seen stores trying to sell feed that is a year old. They didn't think anything was wrong with it.
     
  8. Razz3

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    Ok. I'll take that into account.

    He's not small enough to be hit by Botulism. Not anymore. I've had a runt bantam die of it because of the compost, but she was just so tiny. No one else has ever gotten it, and they're kept in an area free of anything. The older hens are let out to free range during the day, but he's never gone after them, and he ashtrays sticks right with his buddy, who isn't showing any signs.
     
  9. Razz3

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    We fed him sunflower seeds (high vitamin E) and he seemed to get a bit better. He got frantic when he woke up because he wanted to be with his buddy, so we brought him outside and stood guard against the bigger hens. He ate a TON in that time when his buddy came over, and we put them in a separate coop from the bigger hens.
     
  10. MrsBachbach

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    Maybe the bigger hens were pecking the younger boys. Maybe the boys were not getting enough to eat. Anyway, I would continue with the Vit E and selenium (both are better) food sources(you can use the capsule too, just squeeze some in his beak) and get some vit/mineral powder to add to all of their drinking water at least a few days a week. Feed stores carry stuff like that to add to the water. Black oil sunflower seeds are good sources for E, but you will need to provide grit if they are getting it in the shell. I would only provide it as a treat every few days. If he is still weak, you can give him a chopped up hard boiled egg. Egg yolk contains alot of the nutrients he may be missing.
     

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