Background: We have had about 20 laying hens for about a year. I built them a very substantial house (with a 20'x30' run... dog cyclone fencing with a net top) that is large enough to house as many as 30 chicken, but I won't be adding to the count. We own 5 acres that is fenced for cattle that we once raised... 5 strands of barbed wire. I have free ranged my girls without ANY problems. A few days ago, I purchased our first group of ducks, Muscovies... 2 drakes and 4 girls. Well, one of the suspected drakes might be a girl, we are just not sure. They are all 2 months old. I want to be able to free range the ducks, but I have no intentions of re-fencing the property... too much work for this old guy, besides, I would like to not clip their wings, so in a short time, they would be able to defeat the fencing anyway. I would hate it, but I might be willing to put a gate at the end of our driveway. I quickly found that I could herd this crew by simply walking behind them in the direction that I want them to go. Hopefully I can bucket train them in the not too distant future. we had a class yesterday, but they were more interested in taking baths and looking around. I suspect A.D.D. I have a 2 year old GSD that has learned to help with some of the spoiled brat chickens (Falco thinks they are short grumpy sheep), so he may help me after the ducks are used to being around him. They rested and bathed not more than 3 feet from this wolf looking monster yesterday, all without any issues. The problem: These 6 brats like to go on adventures... apparently long ones. Yesterday, I took my eyes off of them for about 10 minutes. The obvious drake led them down our driveway (200 feet), down the road about an 8th mile, and then back behind a neighbors house (another 50 yards) where they hid under a backhoe. The neighbor has dogs, so they were very lucky. The neighbor dogs have learned that I am the Devil, so they will NOT come to my place. LOL I am beginning to wonder if I screwed up by buying this crew. Maybe I am asking for too much too soon, but if these guys don't stay home, they aren't going to last long. I am open to suggestions, but I really, really don't want to fence them in, other than locking them down for the night. So, lacking any other solution, I wonder if what I should do is let the girl ducks free range for part of the day, with the drakes locked in the chicken run, and then switch them in the afternoon. I am retired (thank all that is good and holy) so while this will be a pain, I usually have the time. I've also been thinking about buying a couple of geese, so I wonder if they will help me keep tabs on these bratty ducks. ;>) Please, I need help soon before I lose this crew. I have only had these guys since Friday and I already love having them around. I tried to convince them by promising them that I would never kill them, that they would live like Kings, I would spoil them and that we would only eat their kids... do you think that I shouldn't have told them about my plans for their kids? ;>) Thank you for any help. Cheers, Dan p.s. Please remember that all this bird crazy stuff that has become part of my life IS YOUR FAULT. By chance I happened to find this forum about a year ago and after reading about all of the fun you folks were having, I immediately over built a chicken house that cost me about 2K, went out to buy 4 hens and came home with 26... I got hooked. ;>) Perhaps you can see why my wife, after 38 years I call her "Yes Dear", will not allow me to go to the local dog prison. Anyway, I am now spoiled and will NEVER eat another store bought egg for the rest of my life. I hope that I end up liking duck and duck eggs as well.