alright i have asked this befor but they are older now........

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  1. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    havnt molted yet but i took new pictures of my porcelain d'uccles, tell me please, if they are show quality! thanks!
    porcelain roo:
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    porcelain hen:
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    Note: there feathers on there feet arent the best but i will wash, and keep the bantams under special care befor showing to fix there feet feathers. if they are "showable" thanks!
     
  2. jimnjay

    jimnjay Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I don't claim to know much about d'uccle standards but I would think the blond color in the rooster would be a fault. Most times any solid color should not show any off color.
     
  3. Msbear

    Msbear Fancy Banties

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    I am not an expert either but thought I could help a bit.

    The roo could use more feathering on his feet. He does have a nice comb/head and his tail looks full enough and has a nice "fan" to it. Overall, I think he looks pretty good. I would like to see him in a better position. The first pic looks like he may be eyeing up some breakfast and then the crowing shot.. but it doesn't give a good idea of how he holds himself naturally.

    Your hen has nice body type and is a looker. I think she could use a few more feet feathers as well. Does she have a droopy comb? I can't quite tell from the photos.

    I would say they are. I don't believe they are excellent birds and competition is pretty stiff in the d'uccle department so it's hard to say how they'd do.

    **I am not an expert. These are my personal opinions** Maybe someone with some real expertise will give you a better opinion.
     
  4. Black Feather

    Black Feather Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here is the description of what the feather pattern should look like:

    Comb, Face, Wattles & Ear Lobes: Bright Red

    Beak: Horn.

    Eyes: Reddish Bay

    Beard & Muffs: same as Breast

    Shanks and Toes: Light slate in males and pinkish slate in females; lighter in later years; plumage, slaty blue, tipped with white, the wide web edged with beige.

    Head: Beige, each feather tipped with a small white spangle, a narrow slaty blue bar dividing the white from the balance of the feathers.

    Neck: Hackle – Lustrous straw, each feather having a slaty blue stripe extending lengthwise through the middle of the feather and terminating short of the end of the feather, tipped with a diamond shaped white spangle. Front of Neck - same as breast.

    Back: Lustrous straw, each feather having a slaty blue stripe extending lengthwise through lower part of feather, terminating near end of the feather, tipped with a diamond shaped white spangle, the slaty blue stripe broadening out to edge of feather where it joins the spangle.

    Saddle: Same as hackle.

    Tail: Main Tail – light slaty blue, each feather tipped with white. Sickles & Lesser Sickles light slaty blue, each feather tipped with a V – shaped white spangle. Coverts – same as lesser sickles.

    Wings: Shoulder & Fronts – same as breast. Bows – lustrous beige, each feather tipped with a pure white spangle. Coverts – beige, each feather having a V-shaped pure white spangle at end of feather, a V-shaped slaty blue bar diving white spangle form balance of feather, the V-shaped bar and spangle being larger and more pronounced than other spangling, the whole forming two distinct bars across wings. Primaries – Slaty blue, ower edges slightly edged with beige, lower portion of feather edged with white.

    Secondaries – outer webs beige; inner webs slaty blue extending into outer webs near end of feather, end of each feather tipped with white.

    Breast: Beige, each feather tipped with a V – shaped white spangle, a V-shaped bar of slaty blue dividing white from rest of feather.

    Body & Stern:Same as breast.

    Lower thighs: Same as Back

    Undercolor:White, with slight graying tinge in all sections.



    Color of Female:

    Head:Beige, each feather marked with V-shaped spangle of slaty blue near end of feather, end of feather tipped with V-shaped white spangle.

    Neck: Hackle – same as head. Front of Neck – same as breast.

    Back & Cushion:Rich beige, otherwise same as head.

    Tail: Main Tail- Light slaty blue, each feather tipped with white, two top feathers with some beige on upper web. Coverts – same as back.

    Wings: Shoulder, Fronts, and Bows – same as back. Coverts- same as bows except bar and spangle are larger and more pronounced, the whole forming two distinct bars across wings. Primaries – inner webs slaty blue, outer webs slaty blue edged with beige.

    Secondaries – outer webs, beige extending nearly to end of feather; inner web slaty blue, extending nearly to end of feather and broadening out into outer web nearly to end of feather where it joins white spangle at tip, the whole forming a spangled effect when wing is folded.

    Breast, Body & Lower Thighs: Same as back, Fluff – very light gray shading to white.
    Undercolor: White, with graying tinge, in all sections.



    Disqualifications:

    Two or more solid white, black, or red feathers in any section of plumage.

    Defects:

    White spangles that run into the blue sections- White feather shafting – varying shades of red in plumage – lack of spangling in back and breast – Large white spangling giving bird an overall too white appearance - Unevenness in ground color of female – The slaty blue crescent or V-shaped bar separating the white spangle form the rest of the feather so large as to give an overall blue appearance.

    Judging Instructions:

    More attention should be given to brightness and sharpness of spangling than whether bird appears lighter or darker that one’s preference.
     
  5. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Note: there feathers on there feet arent the best but i will wash, and keep the bantams under special care befor showing to fix there feet feathers. if they are "showable" thanks!



    the hen does not have a floppy comb. must just be the picture. and i am going to start working with the feet feathers befor showing, overall in a 4-H far you think they would do ok?
    thanks!
    ~Bri
     
  6. Black Feather

    Black Feather Chillin' With My Peeps

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    In all honesty I'm not taken with the rooster at all. His color is off and his comb looks like it will lose some points due to frost bite. Does he show any spangling in his hackle, tail or breast?

    The hen looks a lot better color and type wise.

    Don't despair though. 4H has a lot more to do with showmanship and how you present the birds and less on show quality than in open poultry shows. If you can show the judge that you recognize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of your birds you will be doing well.

    If you want the feathers on their feet to be in top shape they will have to be penned on soft bedding during their next molt to help prevent the new feathers from breaking off. Scratching in the barnyard is not a good idea if you want a feather footed breed to be in top shape once the show season starts. Once the show season is over though you can let them out [​IMG]

    Urban Coyote
     
  7. americana-chick

    americana-chick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    the rooster doesnt have frost bite anymore. i dont really know what it was but when it was snowing it was there and now it isnt. and everyone seems to say he isnt that good looking when it comes to show quality. i am more wondering about the hen though. and i already new about the feathers on there feet. thanks!
    ~Bri
     

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