Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[pips&peeps]

Hybrid vigor and the fact the BO abd BR are way bigger birds anyway.

rocks run 6-9.5 lbs
orps run 7-10 lbs
ameraucanas 4.5-6.5 lbs

 

[maryhysong]

Hybrid vigor and the fact the BO abd BR are way bigger birds anyway.

rocks run 6-9.5 lbs
orps run 7-10 lbs
ameraucanas 4.5-6.5 lbs

thanks, makes me feel a little better about them being so small! Yeah the roos from the cross are even passing up older girls in size!

 

[Outrun Acres]

Anyone want to give me their opinion on this 2012 pullet? I know not best pic but the Amers seem to be the only breed I cannot get ever halfway decend pics of.......... Out of all the birds I raised last year she is the nicest in my opinion.

Oh wow. She is beautiful!

 

[Outrun Acres]

Does anyone on here know if the Ameraucana birds advertised on My Pet Chicken are actually Ameraucanas? Or are they EE's too?

 

[15littlem]

Does anyone on here know if the Ameraucana birds advertised on My Pet Chicken are actually Ameraucanas? Or are they EE's too?

They have both EE's (Which they call EE's), and Ameraucanas (quality might be debatable). They also note the fact that other hatcheries sell these birds as Ameraucanas/Araucanas.

 

[Sanna]

She.is carrying the columbian gene silver penciled.This came in through the rooster.New blood .You can,t tell on the roosters only on hens.As chicks they have extra black marking around the eyes.Sorry this happened.I was surprized when they showed up.Changed roosters.He was a very nice rooster.No red in the shoulders.Bred to silver she should produce 50% silver and 50% silvered penciled.Cull the chicks with the extra black eye markings.Her color makes her a EE.

Your bird I feel is definately Birchen based. She could be an EE as many do have slate legs now-a-days, or she could be someones project bird. She has the shafting of the silver ameraucana.....the white streaks down the feathers. On her back feathers, she also has the stippling pattern in the dark parts of the feather... that is a little grainy grey pattern made up of tiny tiny black and tiny tiny white spots (called stippling). The stippling pattern is evident in the silver ameraucana color variety. If you pick her up and look closely at her back feathers you will see this pattern in the feathers. She could be the result of a cross between black ameraucana and silver ameraucana, although I would think she would be more heavly bearded if both parents were full ameraucana. Wheather, Ameraucana or EE, I feel strongly she is a Birchen based bird. She looks exactly like some of my birchen hens that are overly laced.
Now, there are Birchen Ameraucana! I have had stock since 1993. I've been working on to improve egg color and pea combs. Birchen are the counterparts of Brown Red Ameraucana. Birchen carry the silver gene and Brown Red carry the gold gene. The Brown Red Ameraucana variety is a recognized color variety within the breed of ameraucana but Birchen are not a recognized color variety. The silver and gold are sex linked colors. If you breed a male Birchen to a Brown Red female the female offspring of the cross will be silver like the father Birchen. If you breed a Brown Red male to a Birchen female the female offspring will be gold like the Brown Red father.
I will attempt to post pictures of a few birds from my Brichen line.

Thanks guys! This is all very good information.
I took some new pictures of "Cookie" today. These show her color much better. She has a little bit of tan on her chest but probably not quite enough for a silver?
Apparently she lost her beard and muffs due to the other hens picking on her in her previous home.

 

[DMRippy]

Does anyone on here know if the Ameraucana birds advertised on My Pet Chicken are actually Ameraucanas? Or are they EE's too?

If you are looking for Nice Amerucanas try a breeder, most will ship chicks and the price is better and the QUALITY is too.

http://www.ameraucana.org/BreedersDirectory.htm

 

[Tailfeathers]

I don't think gold or yellow legs are sex linked. Yellow legs is a recessive gene and requires 2 copies to express .... like wheaten and lavender.

Silver is sex linked I KNOW that. Barring, cuckoo is sex linked. Chocolate genes are sex linked too.

May not be exactly what you are looking for but it explains how to make SEX LINKS and you need to use genes that are sex linked to make them.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/261208/sex-linked-information/0_20

try this too

http://sellers.kippenjungle.nl/page3.html

As I mentioned before, the latest thing I read about the yellow leg gene being sex-linked was from Kenny Troiano in the Poultry Press. Having said that, I've also seen it stated as such on various other things found on the internet. Some going all the way back to the 1900's. So I'm pretty confident that it is sex-linked. And with it being recessive as well, since the mother does not pass the gene on to her daughters but only to her sons, it is therefore much more easily seen as to why it is a priority when choosing who to pair for breeding as it doesn't take much to be easily lost.

God Bless,

 

[Tailfeathers]

YEAP! That is right! A non standard Ameraucana is an Easter Egger. Pure breed with out muffs or beard = EE. Color Off = EE, Leg Color off = EE any thing that would DQ an Am will make it an EE.... EVEN from the BEST Breeder

Where did this definition come from? It doesn't make any sense to me at all. Anyone who's bred chickens for any length of time - and it doesn't matter what breed I imagine but I know it's the case with my four breeds - knows that you can and do wind up with offspring from pure birds that don't fit the Standard. I'm not going into all the various things I've experienced by I've posted numerous things on the ABC Forum about some of what I've seen and NOBODY has ever told me I've got an Easter Egger. It's simply a cull that resulted in some severe fault or DQ due to genetics.

Granted, a crossing of two approved varieties of Ameraucanas that are not genetically compatible would be considered an Easter Egger BECAUSE the cross is not genetically compatible but I think in most cases most folks who have or are getting Easter Eggers are getting a cross between an Ameraucana or EE and some other totally different breed.

It's simply not accurate to call a cull that resulted from a pure mating where all its brothers and sisters are fine - an EE.

God Bless,

 

[dak]

As I mentioned before, the latest thing I read about the yellow leg gene being sex-linked was from Kenny Troiano in the Poultry Press. Having said that, I've also seen it stated as such on various other things found on the internet. Some going all the way back to the 1900's. So I'm pretty confident that it is sex-linked. And with it being recessive as well, since the mother does not pass the gene on to her daughters but only to her sons, it is therefore much more easily seen as to why it is a priority when choosing who to pair for breeding as it doesn't take much to be easily lost.

God Bless,

This is what I find, only the dermal (Id/id) genes are sex linked, not epidermal (W/w)

Leg Colour Genetics​

The gene responsible for white skin is "W+". It is a dominant gene. The gene "w" is the yellow skin gene, recessive to white. These gene alleles affect the "epidermal-outer layer", therefore influence shank/sole colour. The "dermal-under layer" influence to shank colour is determined by the gene alleles "Id" (no pigment) & "id+" (dermal-black pigment). The dermal genes are sex-linked.

The combination of both dermal & white/yellow skin genes alone can produce the following :

Shank colour


Dermis


Epidermis
White none (Id/Id) white (W+/W+)
Yellow none (Id/Id) yellow (w/w)
Green (Willow) black (id+/id+) yellow (w/w)
Slate/Blue black (id+/id+) white (W+/W+)
Black black (id+/id+) white (W+/W+)
* I have modified the above table from Jeffrey, F. (1977) "Bantam Breeding & Genetics" book.​