Ameraucanas

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by janchilds, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. janchilds

    janchilds Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Is there a difference between blue and lavender Ameraucanas? It looks like the assoc only recognizes blue... So is lavender something new or just another name for blue?

    Thanks!
    Janet
     
  2. stephanie1992

    stephanie1992 Chillin' With My Peeps

    lavander is differnt than blue. but it is not recognized
     
  3. janchilds

    janchilds Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So if you breed a blue to a lavendar... you get 50% / 50% ?
     
  4. wolftracks

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    Quote:No you don't want to breed those two colors together and Lav is still somewhat in the project stage.
     
  5. ChickenWisperer

    ChickenWisperer Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:No you don't want to breed those two colors together and Lav is still somewhat in the project stage.

    Why not? They use black.


    No, you will get 50% blue birds and 50% black birds. These offspring will be "Splits" or "Split lavenders". Breeding them together will produce some lavenders, some BBS - you will also get lav when breeding splits to lavs.
     
  6. wolftracks

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    But you can't breed blue to lav. It dilutes and add and takes way to long to breed out the wrong traits. Black helps hold in the color. You'll get BBS, black, blue, splash chicks. You can breed these back to get the color you are trying to develop and hold onto.

    Visit the AM threads and you'll see how the genes work. You breed those colors together, you're basically breeding EEs.

    Sorry been working on a coop all day and can't think straight. I'm better at the birds than the coops. LOL
     
  7. wolftracks

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    Quote:No you don't want to breed those two colors together and Lav is still somewhat in the project stage.

    Why not? They use black.


    No, you will get 50% blue birds and 50% black birds. These offspring will be "Splits" or "Split lavenders". Breeding them together will produce some lavenders, some BBS - you will also get lav when breeding splits to lavs.
     
  8. cubakid

    cubakid Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well I wouldn't call them EE. They can breed together without mixing, EE is a general term meaning it has some Ameraucana blood in it, not meaning a cross... As in color. Some crosses like wheaten and black produce mixed colors but it is still an Ameraucana.
     
  9. blaundee

    blaundee Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Lavs are not yet accepted, but hopefully they will be soon. We all were hoping they'd be accepted this year [​IMG]
     
  10. AinaWGSD

    AinaWGSD Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:No you don't want to breed those two colors together and Lav is still somewhat in the project stage.

    Why not? They use black.

    Because both the blue and the lavender genes dilute black pigment. The blue gene dilutes all black pigment in a black bird to a grey color (the shade can vary). The lavender gene dilutes all black pigment in a black bird to the lavender color (which is a uniform shade of grey). Also, lavender is a simple recessive, if you have two copies of the lavender gene you have a lavender bird. If you only have one, you have a black bird. Blue is not a simple recessive, if you have two copies of blue you have a splash bird, if you only have one copy you have a blue bird. If you cross blue and lavender birds, you will end up with a muddy genetic mess that will take years to work out. Using black works because it is the "base" color so to speak and you don't have to worry about colors leaking.
     
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