Amputation, or cull?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by BellChell123, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. BellChell123

    BellChell123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hello! Long time reader, first time poster.:frow

    I wish my first post could be of something a wee bit cheerier, but I do need help now from you guys.

    This will be a bit of a long story, so get comfy.

    This past June we hatched out probably 15-20 chicks, and we had one that never opened one of her eyes. We watched her but she was healthy in every other aspect, so we just left her. About a half week later we noticed that her beak was was slightly off. We didn't know what to do, but decided to give her a shot. We also dubbed her Crooky. Very original, no? Skip forward and you'll see us locking her up in a cage and giving her chick crumbles because she can't eat what the other chickens are since her beak is so crooked. We kept her in the cage probably about 2 months. (And before you start thinking she'd be better off dead than in a tiny cage, we WOULD try to put her out in the day and lock her up at night so she could at least move, but the stupid thing would try to fly back into her cage and end up hurting herself. She LIKED being in a tiny cage.) Then when winter started we noticed that she wasn't talking as much as she used to, and laid around a lot. Her feathers also never grew in right, always being sparse, and falling out a lot. We managed to persuade my husband to let us bring her in, and after reading up on crooked beaked chickens, we started watering her food down. Then, we ordered chicken diapers. Crooky did not agree. She acts like a two year old having a tantrum, and goes boneless after a little while. (I know that's not the subject on this post but if anyone has any advice on getting a spoiled chicken used to a diaper, then by all means advise!) We decided to hang up on the diapers for a while. But it was also around this time that we noticed Crooky's foot was swollen, like bumblefoot. This is where the title to this post comes in. We cleaned it up, smeared it in Neosporin[​IMG], then wrapped it in stretch bandages. We couldn't find any pus at all, and no obvious wounds or sores. We've (See? We've. We're in the present now.;) continued this, but Crooky's foot is only getting worse. It's all black, her toes are all off to the side, and she appears to have no control over it. It's also smelly. The heartbreaker is that she's improving. Her feathers are growing in beautifully now, and she's so much livelier. Should we try to amputate, and if so HOW, or just cull her? If possible we would REALLY like to keep her. We've seen pictures of one legged chickens, we just don't know how to get her there! Before you ask, no, there are NO aviary vets around here.

    Here's some pics:
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    The bumps under her beak are just food that dried on there.
    Not some horrid disease!!&nbsp:D


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    She looks like she's always suspicious. "Whoooo are youuuu?"




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    As my daughter says, "Yucky, gucky, ucky!" It's kind of hard to see,
    but the black toes are actually much thinner than the normal ones.
    It's like they've started to atrophy.

     
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  2. BellChell123

    BellChell123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Huh, it seems my smileys aren't working. Why's that?
     
  3. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    Her toes look necrotic like they have been frostbitten. They may fall off. She could probably get around with just a stub. I would put some Neosporin
    ointment without pain reliever on the toes. Here is a thread about frostbitten feet: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/842760/frost-bitten-feet
    Welcome to BYC.
     
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  4. gander007

    gander007 Chicken Obsessed

    Well first [​IMG] glad you could join us [​IMG]

    You have a sad situation there as that one foot is dead that is what the black is no blood flow in the foot so sooner or later the foot is coming off and gangrene will set in if not taken care of ... [​IMG]

    Not a good situation you have there [​IMG]






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  5. Cribbs74

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    That foot is deader than dead. It really needs to be removed and the sooner the better. The longer you wait the less she is going to have to walk around on.

    I am not sure what options you have seeing as there is no avian vet close by. All I can say is make it top priority. If she were mine I would cull her. Not a fun thing and I have had to do it several times. It gets easier, but never that easy.

    I do hope you can save her though!!!
     
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  6. ten chicks

    ten chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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  7. BellChell123

    BellChell123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks all for the advice!

    We've decided to try to amputate, can anyone give me directions on how to do it? We think it would be best to do it at the knee/hock joint. Would that be the best place?
     
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  8. gander007

    gander007 Chicken Obsessed

    "YES" [​IMG]
    It has to be dune ......
     
  9. gander007

    gander007 Chicken Obsessed

    Cut below the joint this extra skin is going to be used as a flap to help seal up the wound and then peal this back and use a very sharp knife you should be able to remove hair off your arm alright yes that sharp and have a couple of helpers unless you can put the chicken out and I dough this and the joint will have a ligament in it be careful and not pull just cut it and if you have a disinfectant use it and have plenty of clean wrapping cloth to wrap it up and not to tight ...... [​IMG]



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  10. BellChell123

    BellChell123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Okay, thank you! Going to try to get hubby to help me today. Have you done this before? You seem very knowledgeable about it.

    If anyone else has advice it would be welcome!
     

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