andalusian blue vs self blue

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by muzzles&nuzzles, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. muzzles&nuzzles

    muzzles&nuzzles Out Of The Brooder

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    Andalusian blues are the blues that are darker on top then lighter on the bottom? More of a two tone blue correct? Well that is what I have and that is what I was told they were.

    Self blues are lavender, more of an all over one color? Or is self blue seperate from lavender? Either way, I would think you would breed andalusian blue birds to one another then keep the self blues together? Is that correct?
     
  2. Dustin Biery

    Dustin Biery Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Not this thread again....LOL I am sure I will not get something correct here, but Andalusian blues bred together will produce black, splashes, and blues. Self blue and lavendar are the same, I think, as they will both breed true if bred to a self blue/lavendar.
     
  3. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Apparently this is a popular question. Maybe it needs a sticky.

    Anyways, hobby names and genetic/gene names are not one-and-the-same. Andalusian blue refers to, as the OP stated, a bird with darker plumage on the head, hackles and (on males) saddle. This appearance is caused by the heterozygous state of the blue gene. Genetically the bird is Bl/bl+, carrying one copy of blue and one of not-blue.

    Self blue is a term that means different things in different coultries. In the US it is usually considered synonymous with lavender, which is genetically lav/lav. As a recessive gene it breeds true, which is one use of the term self; another use of the term refers to a solid coloured bird--all plumage is identical in colouring--no primary oe secondary patterns.

    In Australia and Europe breeders have created a solid coloured (self) blue bird based upon the blue gene.
     
  4. muzzles&nuzzles

    muzzles&nuzzles Out Of The Brooder

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    I think it does need a sticky. There are so many posts they are hard to find.
    You would want to keep these genes seperate?
     
  5. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Most people do, but at least in silkies, lavender has been bred into many blue lines for a number of years. When only one copy is present there is no way to know that it is there.
     

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