another silkie owner needing some gender help

I think it would be best if you posted this on this thread https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/579215/silkie-sexing/1220#post_11863886 they have silkie experts that will give you more accurate answers.
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you will want close UPS of their face, so we can get a good look at the comb. Silkies can be tough to figure..mine are the same age and wev been back and forth on them!!
 
Going by stance only since there's no comb close-ups, I'd say the first one is a cockerel and second possibly a pullet.. just educated guesses though
 
The white one looks like it has no wattle development at all, and male unbearded silkies usually have obvious wattles by 13 weeks of age. So I'm not convinced it's male. A head-on picture of the comb would be helpful.
 

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