Are the AMERICAUNAS from IDEAL hatchery ACTUALLY Americaunas?

[Tailfeathers]

I don't think all the above leave any doubt as to the answer: Hatchery + Ameraucana (or Americana or any other of various spellings) = EE.

Jean, I don't envy you. I'm just a small breeder but I sure feel like a hatchery sometimes!

God Bless,

 

[Mahonri]

pips&peeps :

All commercial hatcheries sell easter eggers.

A small breeder can still be a hatchery, but sell real ameraucanas. I am hoping to get listed as a hatchery soon.

Cool!​

 

[MysticScorpio82]

If all hatcheries sell EE and claim they are Ameraucanas, isn't that false advertisement and illegal? I am just curious as to why they would advertise them as ameraucanas, when they aren't.

 

[SpringChickens]

Because they CAN!!!

I heard someone explain this the other day... Ameraucanas have only been a breed for a relatively short period of time, where hatcheries (Ideal and others) have been around for much longer. Why would Ideal change what they call their chickens just because some new breed came along which took the name?

That said, I do think that hatcheries should advertise WHAT THEY HAVE!!

 

[MysticScorpio82]

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But not legally, unless you can show me otherwise. According to http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/false-advertising/

"Many states have laws against false advertising, which vary by state. The main federal laws governing false advertising are the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Act and the Lanham Act. Under the FTC Act, false advertising includes advertisements that make representations that the advertiser has no reasonable basis to believe, even if the representations turn out to be true. Only the Federal Trade Commission can enforce the FTC Act."

And I understand this to say that it is illegal for these companies to make claims that are false, such as "These are ameraucanas." when they are not. Even if the breed has been around for a short time, it is still an established breed with specific criteria and the EE do not meet these guide lines to be considered a real americauna. Based on that it is still a false claim the hatcheries are making.

 

[Tailfeathers]

I know it has been brought to hatcheries attention as I've personally done that. Same goes with feedstores. But the misrepresentation continues.

Probably because none of us true Ameraucana breeders are rich enough to go on a crusade and sue every hatchery and feedstore we come across that are misleading people.

Of course, they also always add the little disclaimer about their birds not being show quality birds and that might have something to do with it.

God Bless,

 

[EweSheep]

You got that right, Tailfeathers!!!!

 

[mom2chicksandpups]

Well, even though the one you ordered from the hatchery is an EE, give her a chance. I have an EE that was sold to me as an Araucana. She is my best pet chicken. If I had to sell all the other "fancy" chickens, I would keep my EE. They are great for pet chickens.

 

[ArizonaDesertChicks]

Here's how I understand it:

The EEs that the hatcheries sell were known as araucana or american araucanas before the ameraucana breeders club was formed and started breeding for certain colors. Now we have the specially bred & pure ameraucanas, but the hatcheries haven't focused on that and are still selling the same type they've been selling for years. The breeders standard of ameraucanas have only been around since the 70's & 80's and in 1979, only had two recognized colors (wheaton & white). The hatcheries have been selling their chickens for longer than that and don't see the need to change the name.

If you want a show bird, get an ameraucana. If you just want a pretty bird that lays colored eggs, get an EE.

 

[Judy]

You know, in the end, it sounds to me like a "breed" is just a variation that someone has worked on long enough to get it to breed true, and when enough people come up with the same variation that breeds true, they have a breed. If that turns them on, great, I love looking at those pics. But in the end, chickens are one species, with a whole lot of variations.

Frankly, if I were to get excited about breeds, I would get into the original species, not others that have been created from them. Meanwhile, the whole set of definitions of "correct" variations that qualify a chicken or a line of chickens to meet some "breed standard" are totally boring to me.

I love my birds, and am looking forward to what is produced by various mixes.