Australorp and Black Orpington Cross

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by BarredBuff, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. BarredBuff

    BarredBuff Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Would it give me a black chicken? Would the egglaying skills be good? Would the size be enhanced? Would brooding ability be enhanced?
     
  2. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Chicken Obsessed

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    Would it give me a black chicken?

    It certainly should if both parents are purebred black. It should if either parent is purebred black.

    Would the egglaying skills be good?

    Probably. It depends on the specific individuals bred. Some are better egg layers than others, but both breeds are usually pretty good at egg laying. I'd expect the offspring to be good egg layers if the parents are.

    Would the size be enhanced?

    Again, it depends on the parents. Some of my chickens are bigger than others of the same breed. If the parents are big the offspring will probably be big.

    Would brooding ability be enhanced?

    Again, it depends on the parents. I have two BA's and one BO. Both BA's have been broody. MY BO has never been broody. I expect the BA's offspring to have a higher chance of going broody than the BO's offspring. I know there are no guarantees though.

    These answers are not as definitive as you want, but genetics depends on what the parents contribute. Diferrent lines of the breeds contribute diffferent things.
     
  3. farmerwnb

    farmerwnb Out Of The Brooder

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    I am sorry. Arent Black Australorps and Black Orpingtons essentially the same thing?[​IMG] I have a Jersey Roo who x-d with some BA hens. Both were sets of parents are nice looking birds. We ended up with some bood that looked abit less sophistcated. Those offstring are real "lookers"! When people say that the hatchery birds don't always breed the same results they weren't kidding.
     
  4. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner Chicken Obsessed

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    Arent Black Australorps and Black Orpingtons essentially the same thing?


    Good question. The original Black Australorp were developed in Australia, primarily from Orpington stock. I'd expect breeds other than Orpington were used, but I'm not 100% sure of that. But they are a separate breed. Body configuration is different. Feathers are different. Orpington feathers are a lot thicker. Leg color is different. All breeds were developed from other breeds, but the results are totally different breeds.
     
  5. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    You tell me if they're the same. . . [​IMG]

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  6. aveca

    aveca Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I think that adding blk orpingtons of very good quality to blk Australorps in America would improve the tail situation. The tails of many aussies here are too big and the Coopers black orpington is one of the foundation breeds of the Australorps. They re-added them in europe and australia but the australians were absolut no no on the feathers not being tight on the australorp so careful in the breeding choices . One region of Australia held out completly for the standard unless that was written in, the breed must keep a tight feather . after that was inducted , they joined and the standard in australia was complete..
     
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  7. gootziecat

    gootziecat Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I see nothing wrong with adding Orpington blood to Australorps for improvement as long as the APA SOP is followed.
     
  8. blaundee

    blaundee Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I'll second that. Also, Jersey Giant can be a good addition to Australorps.

    Hi Gootzie! [​IMG]
     

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