Australorp, Black Star or a Black Rock?

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by kstough, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. kstough

    kstough Out Of The Brooder

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    Ok I am second guessing myself. I thought my new chicken was an Australorp, but Black Stars and Black Rocks look so much the same! When she is in the light, her feathers have a beautiful green color and it sometimes looks blue, which doesn't show up in these pics. What do you think? Thanks!!
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  2. Adalida

    Adalida Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here's my Australorp. She looks much like yours I think, except yours is much fluffier.

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  3. Adalida

    Adalida Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Mine looks as if she has darker legs than yours though.
     
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  4. BlueBaby

    BlueBaby Chillin' With My Peeps

    She could be a part mixed Australorp, as her legs should be darker and the eye color should either be a dark brown or black.
     
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  5. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    Are you in the US?

    Honestly, I don't think she's any of the above. She looks like a black Orpington to me. White/pink skin, Very rounded and fluffy.

    Normally, that's not a breed I'd throw out there. I'm very much of a "the most common breed is the most likely" person, so I was prepared to say Aussie. But she just doesn't have the look of an Aussie, at least here in the States. If you're in GB or Australia, she may be an Aussie, just better quality than I'm used to seeing here.

    Black Rocks aren't too common either. And all Rocks have yellow skin.

    Black stars are also usually yellow skinned, leaner, not as fluffy, and have red leakage (the vast majority, anyway) at the throat/neck/chest.

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  6. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

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  7. kstough

    kstough Out Of The Brooder

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    Yes I am in the US :) I have been learning that leg color and even the soles of the feet can be an indicator of breed. Is this true? I need to go check her skin color & soles out if I can catch her ;) Thanks for all the help everyone!
     
  8. BantamLover21

    BantamLover21 Overrun With Chickens

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    I'm thinking Black Orpington.
     
  9. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    Yep, skin color is part of what makes each breed that breed. Skin is white or yellow, those are the two choices. White is dominant.

    Many breeds you can tell skin color by leg color. If legs are yellow, there ya go. If legs are white/pink, it's a white skinned bird.

    The difficulty comes when you run into the dermal inhibitors that overlay the skin color on the legs. This is where you get your slate/grey/blue or willow/green legs. Or the black from fibro breeds like Silkies. Or, just black birds often have darker legs. But, the actual skin is still white or yellow. I guess you could try parting breast feathers, or looking under the wings, but an easy place to tell is the bottoms of the feet. Those dermal inhibitors don't usually color the pad of the foot, so that's a good place to see true skin color (except on fibromelanistic birds, with the all black skin. They're another kettle entirely).

    From the first pic, I can see her toes look white/pink, that's why I'm thinking Orpington. Plus that classic round shape, she's actually a pretty nice looking bird. So many of the Orpingtons besides buff don't have good body shape.
     
  10. kstough

    kstough Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks Donrae! This is day 2 of having our new girls and she is the most curious of them all! I just went by the fence and she came to check me out while the others pretended I didn't exist, LOL! Then when I went in she came up to me, was of course nervous when I picked her up to check her out--> Her skin is white! One interesting thing to note though is that she has some TINY spots around her head that are brown. I mean so small this is the first time I have noticed them. In the first pic in my original post, it is a blurred area and didn't upload as good quality as my pic is... Maybe this pic will upload better.
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    Can you see it? So can an Orp have tiny brown spots or may this indicate she has another breed in her? Oh and more about her curiosity, when I was picking up another girl, she came right up and wanted to see what I was doing, she did this for EVERY bird I caught! Very curious (and protective?). I didn't know if she was going to peck me or not [​IMG] So I wonder if she is an Orp b/c of the brown, but all the other characteristic fit. Whatcha think?

    Maybe you can help me with another mystery. I have a huge, I mean HUGE white chicken I was thinking is a White Star. We are calling her big mama b/c I bet she weighs 10 lb!
    She is so big that her underside pretty much touches the ground (some of the feathers are gone and the skin is pink there), she has the biggest waddle, and her legs are very thick compared to the others (maybe 0.75" thick). I was thinking White Rock but she is so so much bigger than the other White Rock I have. And I just read that White Rocks have White beaks...her beak is yellow. Her legs are pink so it is hard to tell if the rest of her legs are yellow or white? Her skin is white I think?? Can a beak be yellow and skin be white? I am super new to chickens [​IMG].

    Here is a pic of her next to the other girl I think is a WR. She is almost twice the size. And then 2 pics of her skin. Last pic is full body shot--see her thick legs? Is she just a huge version of a White Rock? I see that WRs are supposed to have yellow skin and I am not sure if she does...
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