Ayam Cemani Sex

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by kmom08, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. kmom08

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    This is my first time with this breed. I got "her" (I was told she was a female) in November at 11 weeks. I'm now starting to question as for the past month we have seen the Ayam Cemani mounting my larger breed hens. At first I thought she was trying to establish herself a little higher in the pecking order, but it has continued. However this last week she's making odd sounds, not crowing but making longer sounds. I'm not so sure anymore that she is a she. These aren't the best pictures as they were taken today with the wind, but her wattles and ear lobes seem larger than other photos I have seen of the Ayam Cemani hens. She/he will be 31 weeks old tomorrow.
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  2. droy1028

    droy1028 Chirping

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    Looks like a pullet to me.
     
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  3. At 31 weeks if she were a rooster there would be indications of saddle feathers or the forming of such feathers ... Ya I am giving her a thumbs up for a pullet ...
    Good luck with your lady's :clap
     
  4. kmom08

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    That makes me feel a lot better, we're technically not allowed to have roosters in the town I live in. I've been seeing new fluff but that's it, nothing out of the ordinary to strongly indicate saddle feathers.
    I wonder why she's mounting the big girls and making weird sounds. She's sweet as can be otherwise.
     
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    She/he is definitely mounting she just got one of my Welsummer hens and the hen stayed crouched not fighting back at all, not even 20 mins later she was on top of my head hen which is a Calico Princes, neither hen fought back. They are both much bigger than the Ayam Cemani. I really think I have a boy here. :he
     
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    Finally some sunshine today, here are a couple better pictures.
     
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    Here's my baby boy. Hes only about 10 weeks. If you notice his hackles and saddle feathers are very pointed at the tips and his tail feathers are super long and pointed. He started trying to crow at 8 weeks and also has come into his own by regulating the others I have him cooped with. Personally I think your Cemani is just a tough girl with her behavior. You know what they say, it's not always the size of the chicken in the fight, but the fight in the chicken. She may just be making a push for top of the flock. Which is okay, because I'm sure you know pecking order can change at a moments notice. She's beautiful by the way. I'd like to talk to more Cemani owners more often about their experiences with them so shoot me a PM if you notice anything else new.

    P.S. excuse the grass. I live in Michigan and the weather had not been cooperative in my grasp growing back in yet.
     
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    This is when we first got her. We were told she was 11 weeks old. I have 8 other hens in my flock (calico princess, sapphire gems, silver laced Wyandotte, silver laced polish, and welsummers), so 9 total including this one.
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    2nd picture is about a week later hanging out on the back porch.
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    First time with Ayam cemani and so far it's been a pleasure. Do you know when to expect point of lay?
     
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    No, but I'd imagine they're not too different in terms of maturity than other breeds of chicken when it comes to laying age. I do know they are not prolific layers so you won't get eggs as often when she does start to lay. She should be getting to the age where she will start laying soon.
     
  10. kmom08

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    Yeah I don't expect much out of her in regards to egg laying, but I haven't been able to find much about point of lay. I read they typically lay 20-30 then take a break.
    My polish was a later bloomer and didn't lay her 1st until about 10 months, that's the only one I have that lays white eggs so it should be easy to tell when the Ayam Cemani begins.
     

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