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Bantam RIR Hen x Golden Sebright Roo Appearance?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by CluckyJay, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. CluckyJay

    CluckyJay Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Anyone know what this might look like? I have three sebright roos and only one bantam RIR hen, lol.
     
  2. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Golden Sebright are Er/Er, Co/Co, Db/Db, Pg/Pg, Ml/Ml s+/s+

    RIR Hen should be
    eWh/eWh Co/Co db+/db+ ml+/ml+ Mh/Mh s+/-

    this mix favors a Golden looking chicks, except for Mahogany that will turn their Golden Laced color to a Red Laced...

    So the outcome will be
    Er/eWh/ Co/Co Db/db+, Ml/ml+, Pg/pg+, Mh/mh+/ s+/s+/
     
  3. CluckyJay

    CluckyJay Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So, like a sebright in build but with red lacing instead of gold?

    So a red with black tips?


    I may let her get bred to see what happens. I wonder what the eggs would look like out of their offspring?


    Thank you very much!
     
  4. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Correct... as Er Co Db, Pg Ml(found in sebright) are domiant over the recessive counter part genes found on RIR except Mahogany.. which is the dominant gene that makes them red..[​IMG]
     
  5. CluckyJay

    CluckyJay Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you. [​IMG] They should be gorgeous. [​IMG] I wonder if they'll lay and brood like a RIR. Hmmm.
     
  6. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:if you want Red laced Sebright I would just back cross the F1 hens back to the golden Sebright rooster...that would be a cool looking bird
     
  7. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Depending on the quality of the R.I. Red I would expect that you will lose some if not all of the lacing in the tail and maybe in the wings of the offspring, do to the R.I. Red having Black tails and in there wings.

    Chris
     
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  8. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Why would that be? Emelanin restrictors like Co and Db are already present on the sebright as well as in the RIR with the exception of Db...
     
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    Quote:Why would that be? Emelanin restrictors like Co and Db are already present on the sebright as well as in the RIR with the exception of Db...

    Quote:Do you mean Melanin Restrictors (Black Restrictors)?
    How familiar are you with the R.I. Red Breed?

    Chris
     
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  10. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Sorry I meant Eumelanin Restrictors or Columbian like restrictors like Co(Columbian) Db(DarkBrown) Mh(Mahogany is believe to be a weak eumelanin restrictor)



    Quote:well... I have only work with ISA browns, but I am familiar with their genetic make up.. like eWh/eWh(some show line are believed to be het for eb) Co/Co, Mahogany to make them Red(if not they would be R.I Buffs..) but SQ lines have un documented genes that make them so dark they look almost black.. Mh on itself can't do that...
     

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