Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[cvandermerwe]

the blue is a black diluter like BBS. so a black roo from blue lines does not have a copy of the blue gene. a blue roo would have one copy of the gene and a splash roo would have two copies.

if you put a normal black roo with a blue hen you would get 50% blue chicks and 50% would be black. if you put a blue roo with a blue hen you would still only get 50% blue chicks but 25% would be black and 25% would be splash (even more diluted than blue) now if you put a black roo with a splash hen or vice versa they would be 100% blue because they would all have only one copy of the gene...from the splash... but nothing from the black parent.

the blue is not a recessive gene...when there is only one copy then that is when you see the blue. that's why blue can never breed true.

Hmmm...ok, one more question...

What happens with splash to splash....100% splash?

 

[tls_ranch]

the blue is a black diluter like BBS.  so a black roo from blue lines does not have a copy of the blue gene.  a blue roo would have one copy of the gene and a splash roo would have two copies.

if you put a normal black roo with a blue hen you would get 50% blue chicks and 50% would be black.  if you put a blue roo with a blue hen you would still only get 50% blue chicks but 25% would be black and 25% would be splash (even more diluted than blue)  now if you put a black roo with a splash hen or vice versa they would be 100% blue because they would all have only one copy of the gene...from the splash... but nothing from the black parent.

the blue is not a recessive gene...when there is only one copy then that is when you see the blue.  that's why blue can never breed true.

Hmmm...ok, one more question...

What happens with splash to splash....100% splash?

Yep, 100% splash. I have read that Blue x black and blue x blue will probably produce better quality offspring than splash x blue/black. Right now, i have 2 or 3 nice splash cockerels and one nice pullet. I am keeping them to see how they look. But may not use them as I am working on getting the best lacing on the blues.

Trisha

 

[pickledchicken]

 

[pysankigirl]

nice visual!!!

 

[buckabucka]

I love this. I don't know why I never thought of drawing it out that way, but it makes things very clear.

 

[cvandermerwe]

Very nice visual, thank you!

Some questions...

Trisha, do you think that eventually a splash line could have the lacing improved or do they inherently have sloppy lacing?

Ok, so pardon me for bringing this up again. Does the blue/black/splash chart only work with barnies or is the blue gene in chickens only present when it's visual? My bird genetic background comes from psittacines, so I am more familiar with "split to blue" where the bird looks normal but carries a recessive blue gene.

Thanks for being patient with me while I soak this all up.

C.J.

 

[ChickNmamma]

Very nice visual, thank you!

Some questions...

Trisha, do you think that eventually a splash line could have the lacing improved or do they inherently have sloppy lacing?

Ok, so pardon me for bringing this up again. Does the blue/black/splash chart only work with barnies or is the blue gene in chickens only present when it's visual? My bird genetic background comes from psittacines, so I am more familiar with "split to blue" where the bird looks normal but carries a recessive blue gene.

Thanks for being patient with me while I soak this all up.

C.J.

That is a great chart. I saved it for future conversations with questions about the B/B/S breedings!

That B/B/S chart will work with any Chicken breed - Blue (Bl) is a dominant gene. If it doesn't express, it isn't there.

The recessive gene that changes chickens to Self Blue is called Lavender (lav). It is recessive, requires two copies to express and you can have split to lav. The lav gene would also mess with the Red as well as the Black - I'm not sure it is something you would want to bring into red laced birds..

 

[pickledchicken]

Very nice visual, thank you!

Some questions...

Trisha, do you think that eventually a splash line could have the lacing improved or do they inherently have sloppy lacing?

Ok, so pardon me for bringing this up again. Does the blue/black/splash chart only work with barnies or is the blue gene in chickens only present when it's visual? My bird genetic background comes from psittacines, so I am more familiar with "split to blue" where the bird looks normal but carries a recessive blue gene.

Thanks for being patient with me while I soak this all up.

C.J.

I think most of us are working with the dominant blue gene if the bird has it, it will show. Two copies dilutes the base color even further and gives us the splash coloration. There is a ( self blue ) Lavender that is a split not sure if anyone is working with that in the Barnevelder right now. The blue gene does seem to break the lacing lacing up a bit I too would like to hear Trisha's thoughts on that.

 

[cvandermerwe]

Here are a few pics of my young Barnies (all TLS stock)











I really like how yellow their legs are right now, I have seen some less than desireable examples at this age. I think there's an awful lot of potential in that room right now...comments?

I have to say that these are some of the most docile and friendly chickens I have ever owned. I have not tried to tame them at all and yet every time I go in there all they want is to be under me, around me, etc. My 4 son is well versed in respecting animals and they absolutely love to be picked up and petted by him. Blows me away!






Can you guys tell if these splashes are on their way to good lacing?

Thanks for all the input, advice, etc.

 

[RachaelS]

Here are a few pics of my young Barnies (all TLS stock)











I really like how yellow their legs are right now, I have seen some less than desireable examples at this age. I think there's an awful lot of potential in that room right now...comments?

I have to say that these are some of the most docile and friendly chickens I have ever owned. I have not tried to tame them at all and yet every time I go in there all they want is to be under me, around me, etc. My 4 son is well versed in respecting animals and they absolutely love to be picked up and petted by him. Blows me away!






Can you guys tell if these splashes are on their way to good lacing?

Thanks for all the input, advice, etc.

Sorry I cant help with your questions. They are great birds, but Is someone eating their tails?