Barred crossed with laced chickens?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Caesura, May 31, 2016.

  1. Caesura

    Caesura Out Of The Brooder

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    So I'm working on a laced project, and hatched out a bunch of eggs from my gold sebright hen. I was hoping to keep all the birchen chicks for my project.

    Anyway, they are not what I was expecting. Hahaha. It looks like my dom fly tie rooster managed to get in with her, because all the chicks are black/silver with a white dot on top of their heads, like a barred rock.

    What should I expect from this cross? And what birds should I save to try and breed the lacing back in? The dad isn't what I was planning to use but I should still be able to make use of these chicks.
     
  2. Egghead_Jr

    Egghead_Jr Overrun With Chickens

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    What was the intended sire's breed? Did any non barred chicks hatch? Why are you using a Seabright to create birchen? I don't know how that can be done in one cross. Very curious as to what your intended cock bird was to achieve that.

    Without knowing the details of the project there isn't a lot to comment on. Sure you can use the Dom/Sea chicks but it will set you back a year getting the barring out alone. This does not account for the body type and size of the Dominique. It may be way off from your intended goal resulting in more time selective breeding.

    Not knowing details all I can suggest is that you only use the non barred birds as that was your original goal of cross. If they didn't result birchen like you wanted then breed again and again until you get what you need. There are some crosses that get you what you want but are not the easiest way to go about it. A cross that results 1 in 8 birds the coloration intended verses a cross that yields 1 in 64 is obviously more desired.

    This chicken calculator is useful:

    http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html
     
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  3. Caesura

    Caesura Out Of The Brooder

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    The intended sire is a blend of green junglefowl, grey junglefowl, and Hainan game. The very very long term goal is to create silver and gold laced longtail fowls. I'm trying to build the lacing on a birchen base, because that will give me laced sickle feathers (like polish and the few cock feathered sebrights out there, their lacing is on a birchen base) instead of solid black sickles (like wyandottes, because their lacing is on a columbian base).

    When I posted about this previously, the consensus was to cross with a laced bird and keep all birchen offspring, then by breeding the birchen ones together you could get laced in the next generation.

    Anyway, I can hopefully still use these guys because they do have some longtail genetics from their fly tie father. Also, I have to breed the hen-feathering out somehow which will likely take a few years. So if I get a cock-feathered male out of this batch I will be very happy.

    Maybe breed the barred hens with my Hainan game blend once they grow up, and breed him back to the sebright. Then blend the best of the two crosses.
     
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