These are my first ever turkeys. So I need some help Don't remember when I got these.... 3 months ago maybe??? Just the two of them. Some strutting and fluffing the tail..... but no gobbling. I tried to find some good reference pics but could not tell what the differences are when they are younger. When can you tell for absolute certain? Are these guys old enough? They look identical. No blue really on their heads and they frequently look VERY red, especially when they are chasing the roo around.... they don't like him very much since he's gotten so full of himself. I'm guessing that these are either both hens or maybe one (it frequently has a very red head) might be a tom?? .... but please tell me for certain and also how you know I really wanted some noisy toms... but maybe next year, yeah? At what age do they begin gobbling??? Here they are I hope this pic will work well..... I figure it shows them all the way around pretty much since they really look the same feather wise.